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2020-05-22 International-UN-NGOs

Trump says US pulling out of Open Skies surveillance treaty

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Posted by trailing wife 2020-05-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 "yet Russia has restricted flights over certain areas."

So headline SHOULD be Trump annuls treaty broken by Russia.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-05-22 02:16|| 2020-05-22 02:16|| Front Page Top

#2 So headline SHOULD be Trump annuls treaty broken by Russia.

Can we please not inject facts into the discussion? It only reduces the hysteria. And at this point, that's pretty much all the media has left.

Funny thing, the Trump sound bites I heard on the news said this was no big deal and were very positive about our future relationship with Russia.

And yeah, as tw says, "satellites".

Posted by SteveS 2020-05-22 03:30|| 2020-05-22 03:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Anybody know of any material on Francis Gary Powers? I recently heard of a documentary where his "employer" left him out to dry pretty much. From what I heard, he was done a horrible injustice. And he died in a helicopter crash. Hmmm

Posted by Clem 2020-05-22 06:14|| 2020-05-22 06:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Clem, according to Mr. Powers’ Wikipedia page:

Later career
Powers worked for Lockheed as a test pilot from 1962 to 1970, though the CIA paid his salary. In 1970, he wrote the book Operation Overflight with co-author Curt Gentry.[25] Lockheed fired him, because "the book's publication had ruffled some feathers at Langley." Powers became a helicopter traffic pilot reporter for KNBC News Channel 4.

Death
Main article: 1977 Encino helicopter crash
Powers was piloting a helicopter for KNBC Channel 4 over West Los Angeles on August 1, 1977, when the aircraft crashed, killing him and his cameraman George Spears.[3]:251, 289–90, 324 They had been recording video tape following bush fires in Santa Barbara County in the KNBC helicopter and were heading back from them.

His Bell 206 JetRanger helicopter ran out of fuel and crashed at the Sepulveda Dam recreational area in Encino, California, several miles short of its intended landing site at Burbank Airport. The National Transportation Safety Board report attributed the probable cause of the crash to pilot error.[26] According to Powers's son, an aviation mechanic had repaired a faulty fuel gauge without informing Powers, who subsequently misread it.[27]

At the last moment, he noticed children playing in the area and directed the helicopter elsewhere to avoid landing on them.[26] He might have landed safely if not for the last-second deviation, which compromised his autorotative descent.[27]

Powers was survived by his wife, children Claudia Dee and Francis Gary Powers Jr., and five sisters. He is buried in Arlington National Cemetery as an Air Force veteran.[26][28]

Posted by trailing wife 2020-05-22 08:47|| 2020-05-22 08:47|| Front Page Top

#5 The RC-135 derivatives used for Open Skies are clapped out. There's no budget to refurbish or replace them. As has been mentioned, the Russians won't let us fly over places they might be useful and there are other ways to image those areas.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-05-22 10:34|| 2020-05-22 10:34|| Front Page Top

#6 The administration says it wants out of the Open Skies Treaty because Russia is violating the pact

But...but...I thought Trump is Putin's stooge.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-05-22 14:37|| 2020-05-22 14:37|| Front Page Top

#7 All part of Putin's master plan to blame Trump when Russia nukes us.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-05-22 15:35|| 2020-05-22 15:35|| Front Page Top

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