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2008-05-24 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Bobby 2008-05-24 07:44|| || Front Page|| [11137 views ] Top

#1 Iran has been "talked to" for years. They love it since it gives them cover as they stonewall. Maybe a different route should be tried.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-05-24 08:19|| 2008-05-24 08:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Is James Baker an appeaser, too?
The preferred expression is "bagman." As a Masshole pol, you should be able to grasp the concept.

Posted by regular joe 2008-05-24 08:36|| 2008-05-24 08:36|| Front Page Top

#3 So appeasement passes the global test.

Posted by Grunter 2008-05-24 09:05|| 2008-05-24 09:05|| Front Page Top

#4 For Kerry, this article represents more work than he puts into the Senate, when he bothers to show up.

Today = off to Martha's Vineyard!

Posted by Raj 2008-05-24 09:43|| 2008-05-24 09:43|| Front Page Top

#5 In short, not talking to Iran has failed. Miserably

There have been talks. even before Kerry's 'Baker 'suggested ones'. Mostly through European venues. They're just not the high-profile-let's-link-arms-and-sing-kumbaya-see-we-are-the-world talks the Democrat-left wants.

Posted by Pappy 2008-05-24 11:27|| 2008-05-24 11:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Ooooooh. Jawn has his statesman hat on today. Hope one of his aides got this done in time for him so he could sign off on it and get an early start up to the Island.

Posted by tu3031 2008-05-24 11:54|| 2008-05-24 11:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Raj and tu, that would be Nantucket, not Martha's Vineyard (the Heinz place is on Nantucket). At least, I assume they use Teresa's place, since it's bound to be much better than anything Jawn brought to the table.

Especially nice how Jawn just invents stuff - "including Obama, Bush aides explained". Huh? Missed that one.

This whole thing about talking to Iran may qualify as the dumbest "debate" in recent history, which is saying something. As y'all point out, Iran has been talked to, non-stop, for years and years. Once again, is it beyond the administration or McCain's folks to use their pulpits, and ridicule, to really humiliate their opponents by showing how ignorant they are, how preposterously unfactual the premises of their assertions are?

Of course it is. Sigh ....

Posted by Verlaine 2008-05-24 12:01|| 2008-05-24 12:01|| Front Page Top

#8 Utterly clueless. The US has sanctioned EU talks with Iran on nuclear development for years. Obama's innovation is presidential level talks without preconditions, like stop sponsoring terrorism first. Maybe he thinks his winning smile is just irresistable.

If you take Kerry at face value and accept that "not talking to Iran has failed. Miserably." you must also admit we have had a policy of not confronting Iran with force. That too may be said to have failed. Miserably. What's Kerry's argument for talks over force? He makes none. I assume it has something to do with some global test whereby the US is beloved if it engages in talks irrespective to the harm done to American interests. Better to be a rump state which engenders warm fuzzy feelings than a resented superpower.

Posted by Baba Tutu 2008-05-24 23:44|| 2008-05-24 23:44|| Front Page Top

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