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Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-28 03:28|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 GavinNewsom's doing the same thing, and the longer New York and California stay stagnant, the more it's going to impede the nationwide economic recovery and boost.

Destroying the Trump economy is obviously the goal. They have no viable candidate, no plan or platform. The dems are simply focused on the destruction of the Orange Man and the regaining of power.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-28 03:34|| 2020-05-28 03:34|| Front Page Top

#2 These birdbrains in California -- these public health officials and the city council, town council, board of supervisors, whatever -- say, "Yes. We're gonna maintain shelter-in-place through the summer..."

The process is even worse than that: at least a city council would involve elected representatives.

Instead the lifer/don't-lift decisions are being made at the county level -- quick Q: who's your county supervisor? Do you have any idea? And not even the supervisor or sheriff. The decision as to whether each county in California goes over the brink is given over to one obscure bureaucrat with zero expertise or skill in anything outside of medicine: the county health commissioner.

That individual's decision trumps the governor's decision if it's more restrictive than his. Any power-hungry little bureaucrat in sic a position has a built-in incentive to be more rather than less restrictive.

And there is nothing the public or its representatives can do about it: the process entails zero public input and no role for the people's representatives. And so we have different rules for different California counties - no haircuts allowed in some, haircuts in others; some surgeries allowed in some but next to none or few in other counties. Banana republic time.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-28 07:41|| 2020-05-28 07:41|| Front Page Top

#3 The public won't play that game any longer

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-28 07:53|| 2020-05-28 07:53|| Front Page Top

#4 ^The public already is not playing the game - what's why California CV19 caseload is not going down, Frank.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 07:57|| 2020-05-28 07:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Bullshit, G. People who get the CV were always gonna get the CV. All the damage is economical, as planned

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-28 08:03|| 2020-05-28 08:03|| Front Page Top

#6 CV is not magic. It doesn't go through walls.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 08:04|| 2020-05-28 08:04|| Front Page Top

#7 p.s. So, in your opinion, Cuomo did right?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 08:07|| 2020-05-28 08:07|| Front Page Top

#8 No - knowingly pushing infected old people into vulnerable populations was murder

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-28 08:27|| 2020-05-28 08:27|| Front Page Top

#9 /\ Empty bunks cost money. Nursing home owners and consortiums make substantial financial contributions.

2+2 = ?

Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-28 08:32|| 2020-05-28 08:32|| Front Page Top

#10 Here's the "Cironovirus Tracker" for counties and cities in the SF Bay Area. Key points:

1) it's now been admitted, finally, that there were at least 10,000 people infected in this area as early as February 6 -- i.e. six weeks before the lockdown even started. And yet there were no more than a total of 30 deaths attributed to these infected cases.

2) if you look at the curves for infected cases and deaths for each county, they all have more or less the same shape over some 10-12 weeks: a slow build followed by a spike, a plateau and then a decline. This is almost exactly the pattern that is seen during flu season. Also, this pattern occurs regardless of when the initial spike happened in that particular county, be it prior to the March 19 "shelter in place" lockdown or many weeks after the lockdown.

It is obvious that the authorities do not have the faintest idea as to how dangerous or fatal this strain actually is -- and what if any correlation exists between the fatality rate and any one of their grasping-at-straws measures.

They're just making this up willy-nilly as they go. All the evidence and every day's data indicate what we suspected from the beginning: this year's bug is not significantly more fatal -- and did not/doesn't merit more extreme public health measures i.e. beyond sensible precautions including washing hands, staying away from others if you have symptoms and above all, protecting the elderly-- than the other Asian flu strains that every year kill thousands of Californians.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-28 08:33|| 2020-05-28 08:33|| Front Page Top

#11 #8 People who get the CV were always gonna get the CV. & No - knowingly pushing infected old people into vulnerable populations was murder

IMO, you can't have it both ways.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 08:41|| 2020-05-28 08:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Lex, just for a change of pace - how about you look at the world outside Californian Bay area?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 08:43|| 2020-05-28 08:43|| Front Page Top

#13 #11 - sharks are gonna bite some people every summer. Tossing people into the shark tank, however...

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-28 08:45|| 2020-05-28 08:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Link to the "Cironovirus Tracker" data set and notes, with breakouts for for counties and cities in the SF Bay Area.

Note this incoherent BS:

Is shelter in place working?

YES!!The numbers indicate it has, particularly in the Bay Area, where aggressive restrictions were first put in place.

BUT, ER, NO--Not really: However, after several weeks of flat or declining numbers, the Bay Area has seen a growth in new cases during the past week. From May 19 to May 23, the Bay Area reported 200 or more cases each day and averaged more than 210 cases per day last week. In the span of April 16 to May 17, the Bay Area averaged fewer than 160 cases per day and hit 200 only once.

AND NOW, THE INCOMPETENCE... The spike coincides with the gradual reopening of California even though most of the Bay Area has maintained its shelter-in-place orders.

No you ninnies, the "spike" occurred in the East Bay counties and is almost certainly due to the lag time needed for infections to move from the heavily-Chinese epicenter -- in SF, San Mateo and Santa Clara -- over to the East Bay, i.e. Oakland and the counties where most of the area's African-American population resides.

Zero attempt to do any intelligent time series analysis at all.
No comparison with time series data for prior year flu seasons.
No effort to separate signal from noise, to isolate causes and effects.

And based upon this third-world bullshit performance they have thrown over 5 million Californians out of work, cratered many thousands of small businesses, and are ruining the educations hence life producers of 5 million school kids who were already suffering the effects of their shitty third-world caliber educational system.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-28 08:49|| 2020-05-28 08:49|| Front Page Top

#15 #13 I've read your "People who get the CV were always gonna get the CV" as Inshallah, sorry.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 08:57|| 2020-05-28 08:57|| Front Page Top

#16 #12 - how about you look at the world outside Californian Bay area?

Been there done that - and realized that cross-country comparisons are totally useless. Again, the methods of attributing cause of death have varied so widely that the data are completely inconsistent. And incomplete. And shifting. And of course inaccurate and even corrupted in many cases by officials seeking to game the numbers one way or another.

The reasons that California data is worth diving into, in isolation, are that

1) it's a large and at least consistent dataset i.e. the method of attributing death has not varied from place to place or time to time;

2) California has vast experience with the spread of virulent Chinese flu strains-- unlike countries in Europe or the Middle East, California is on the front lines and has vast amounts of data for doing yearly comparisons of Chinese-sourced strains

3) Again unlike Europe, California reports data broken out by ethnic sub-groups, which shows clearly what others noticed at the very beginning: fatalities are linked to certain ethnicities' mainly Africans', much higher susceptibility to this disease.

4) we have good data in California about the number of people who were and are still arriving at CA airports every day on direct flights from Wuhan and other Chinese cities, hence we know that the virus was spreading and had already infected tens of thousands of Californians by the end of January

Posted by Lex 2020-05-28 09:05|| 2020-05-28 09:05|| Front Page Top

#17 Been there done that - and realized that cross-country comparisons are totally useless.

Well, bye.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-28 09:12|| 2020-05-28 09:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Have a nice life, grom.

"We'll always have Stockholm."

Posted by Lex 2020-05-28 09:14|| 2020-05-28 09:14|| Front Page Top

#19 #3 The public won't play that game any longer.

Hope you are right Frank.

Posted by JohnQC 2020-05-28 18:01|| 2020-05-28 18:01|| Front Page Top

#20 Trump should announce that states that stay locked down will receive whatever federal help there may be in the order they open up.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-05-28 18:20|| 2020-05-28 18:20|| Front Page Top

#21 gromguru still is the voice of reason in this matter.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-05-28 18:26|| 2020-05-28 18:26|| Front Page Top

#22 g(r)omgoru of course

Posted by European Conservative 2020-05-28 18:26|| 2020-05-28 18:26|| Front Page Top

#23 I'm having lunch with a buddy in a restaurant/bar on Monday

Posted by Frank G 2020-05-28 18:34|| 2020-05-28 18:34|| Front Page Top

#24 Make sure you wear your mask Frank.

Posted by bbrewer126 2020-05-28 21:02|| 2020-05-28 21:02|| Front Page Top

#25 German restaurants are open for business. But then again, we only have about 10,000 active cases now.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-05-28 21:16|| 2020-05-28 21:16|| Front Page Top

#26 Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Texas are going to harvest businesses from NY and CA.

Just leave the employees (liberals) in CA and NY.

Posted by Marilyn Tojo7566 2020-05-28 21:55|| 2020-05-28 21:55|| Front Page Top

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