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2006-05-19 Great White North

Canadian Minister Quashes Honour for Anti-Bush U.S. General

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Posted by Gromosh Elminegum5705 2006-05-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Zanny Zinni -- how's that book selling

Posted by Captain America 2006-05-19 01:06|| 2006-05-19 01:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Thank you Canada.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-19 08:58|| 2006-05-19 08:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Kudos Canucks.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-19 10:04|| 2006-05-19 10:04|| Front Page Top

#4 I'd personally have no qualms w/Zinni being given this award. He was my general for a while when I first came in. Damn good one to - straight shooter - unlike a lot of the peacocks I've seen. I'm not sure anyone in the U.S. would've even noticed Canada even giving him this thing.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-19 10:19|| 2006-05-19 10:19|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm not sure anyone in the U.S. would've even noticed Canada even giving him this thing.

Agree with you, BH6, but lots of folks in Canada will notice and that's what's important. Harper is defining himself for the Canadian people so that they know in the next election who he is and where he stands. Good for him, eh.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-19 10:24|| 2006-05-19 10:24|| Front Page Top

#6 NS, you might be right. However, most officers in the U.S. military don't even know which foreign military generals that West Point, Annapolis, or the USAF academy confer honorary degrees on etc. I'm not sure this would even be on the average canucks radar. Either way, now it is.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-19 10:32|| 2006-05-19 10:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Zinni disgraced himself with his work in the ME, along with his high-profile criticism of Bush.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-19 11:05|| 2006-05-19 11:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Frank's right. No matter how good he seemed as a general, he took a dump on the current effort, therefore, he has dishonored himself.

Posted by wxjames 2006-05-19 13:27|| 2006-05-19 13:27|| Front Page Top

#9 I didn't have a problem w/his criticisms about the execution of the war. Shit, there were things I saw over there that I thought should've been handled different. I'm not sure I would've been as vehement about it though. As most of you know I just got back from there in March.

I've heard the guy speak several times before the war and even after - he bitched about not having enough troops, Rummy allegedly not listening to his senior commanders, and the strategic execution of the conflict as a whole being done poorly as 10 years of meticulous planning was according to him discarded. I may agree or not w/his positions and his decision to do that book w/Clancy - but, the fact is his background and prior outstanding service at least gives him the credibility to play devil's advocate as opposed to a carbon blob like Murtha, Mike Moore, or any other hollywood pussy, etc. I also don't remember Zinni every lying about anything. I don't have a problem w/retired generals who are now civilians bitching if they can give the tangible/logical/constructive argument to better prosecute the war, i.e. kill more sand clowns and save more Yank lives. Troop strength is a valid argument imho after having been there. I think Zinni has plenty of honor and is one tough old sob. If he said something was hosed up, heck, maybe it was. IIRC didn't something like 26 other retired stars agreed w/him wrt Rummy. I don't dislike Rummy & I think he's got a strong intellect and is a tough old bird as well, but when 27 retired stars can agree on something maybe we as commonsense patriots need to take another look. I couldn't tell ya about ten years of CentCom planning as I wasn't there. OTOH, if you think Zinni should've did less bitching in the msm while working for us in the ME then I could definitely see your point on that.

As far as the ME in general - he stated publicly Arafat was an un-repentent liar who couldn't be trusted - some of our own politicos didn't even have the nads to throw that bomb.

Oh well, we'll prolly just agree on disagreeing on this one - such is life.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-19 14:57|| 2006-05-19 14:57|| Front Page Top

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