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2006-05-19 Fifth Column

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Posted by DanNY 2006-05-19 00:29|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Interesting thoughts, thanks.

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-05-19 10:40|| 2006-05-19 10:40|| Front Page Top

#2 agree, interesting. But I have to take issue with two points - as that is my nature :-)

1. But Europe was ever only a secondary concern No, the west was one. If Europe is only a secondary concern it is becasue it is already a weakened foe.

2. While it may be true that they are using the border issue to stir up trouble, they have never understood Americans because they just don't think like we do.

You said, "The impending crisis of American action against Iran was first reacted to by the "Cartoon Crisis" which was an attempt by the Islamofascists of several stripes to cow the peoples of Europe. It was only partially successful and, in fact, may have appeared to backfire in some respects as the Europeans began to wake up and realize the extent of the enemy infiltration in their midst"

I would suggest to you that the immigration issue has likewise backfired beyond the comprehension of those who are not Americans by culture. The sentiment over immigration has unified liberals and conservatives. While the liberals are content to blame Bush - the vitrol from the left regarding illegal immigrants is very surprising to me.

It may work to stir up havoc in the MSM and political front - but at the dinner table discussions, the result seems to be that it has for the first time in 10 years given liberals and conservatives something to agree about.

Posted by 2b 2006-05-19 10:56|| 2006-05-19 10:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Interesting post, DanNY. I hadn't thought about the Russia aspect -- an interesting take on what I agree is the unexpected strong reaction to the generation-long border leakage (although the May Day festivities did *not* help the ANSWER position).

Posted by trailing wife 2006-05-19 11:26|| 2006-05-19 11:26|| Front Page Top

#4 "It may work to stir up havoc in the MSM and political front - but at the dinner table discussions, the result seems to be that it has for the first time in 10 years given liberals and conservatives something to agree about."

While I agree there has been some overlap in agreement that something needs to be done, I think the primary objective is diversion of our attention from the war with a secondary objective of regime change in november. It also gives Russia and China some breathing space to think up new ways to slow down our progress on winning over the europeans in favor of action.

"(although the May Day festivities did *not* help the ANSWER position)"

Heh, the ANSWER folks are cannon fodder, useful idiots. The success of their position is of no concern. The succcess of the diversion is the objective and so far that is proceeding perfectly.

Posted by DanNY 2006-05-19 12:54|| 2006-05-19 12:54|| Front Page Top

#5 good point - but the reason that it is such an effective diversion is that is a real problem that both parties have failed to address.

The Dem's will come up with some candidates who will do what the alway do - give lip service but no meaningful action and thus they will steal votes. But the Repubs can easily rectify this by taking some meaningful action - do the right thing instead of pandering to the illegal votes.

Posted by 2b 2006-05-19 15:44|| 2006-05-19 15:44|| Front Page Top

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