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2009-06-19 Home Front: Culture Wars

Arizona officers fight unlicensed CC gun proposal

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Posted by Anonymoose 2009-06-19 09:08|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 You know that if the chiefs, judges, and lawyers got their act together and delivered real justice, most citizens wouldn't even both about carrying any means of self defense. Consider it a reflection on the quality of your performance dudes.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-06-19 11:38|| 2009-06-19 11:38|| Front Page Top

#2 ...even bother...

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-06-19 11:38|| 2009-06-19 11:38|| Front Page Top

#3 seems to me the only difference in concealed vs open carry is that you're much less likely to be impolite to someone if you knoew he's carrying. I can see why some cops would be worried.

"An armed society is a polite society."
___R.A. Heinlein

Posted by Gleamp Protector of the Faith5580 2009-06-19 12:27|| 2009-06-19 12:27|| Front Page Top

#4 From reading the above the only cops that need to worry, are the assho;es hiding behind a badge.
(And yes, they're out there, such as constables, and other cop wannabes we had a constable so bad they abolished the position to get rid of him.)

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-06-19 14:01|| 2009-06-19 14:01|| Front Page Top

#5 So, how's this working out in Alaska and Vermont? Probably about the same as before the law change. People make guns dangerous not the other way around.

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-06-19 15:00|| 2009-06-19 15:00|| Front Page Top

#6 I love Arizona! Sheriff Joe supports the bill! The issue is really that open carry does not require a permit and concealed does. The laws are confusing as to where you can carry open and when you have to conceal it. This is a great debate on too many rules. Hope they clean it up soon. I would not be against having everyone take the course to carry at all. The course is a good one and deals with the legal end of using a weapon in America. Worth going to.

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-06-19 15:43|| 2009-06-19 15:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Seems pretty obvious Cops are afraid of armed citizens, WHY.

Unless the cops are thugs, why worry?

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-06-19 19:24|| 2009-06-19 19:24|| Front Page Top

#8 49 Pan: I would describe what is needed as voluntary "gun culture" classes for the public. While such classes already exist, often they are prohibitively expensive.

Starting after WWII, there were a number of efforts to educate the public about things like hygiene and sanitation, with the idea of creating a "disease prevention culture", that today is common knowledge. Self-sustaining knowledge that people teach each other.

However, just the opposite has happened with guns, for a multitude of reasons. That is, much of our gun culture has faded away, leaving the majority of people ignorant of an equally complex subject.

Classes in gun culture can go far afield into gun etiquette and courtesy, laws, psychology, maintenance, practice, first aid, finding the gun that is just right for an individual, accessories, gun use in different situations, etc.

The idea is that this would become family knowledge, and be passed around by people as common sense.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-06-19 20:37|| 2009-06-19 20:37|| Front Page Top

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