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2022-06-21 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Geneva Convention does not apply to American mercenaries - Peskov

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Posted by badanov 2022-06-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 Article 47 of the 1949 Geneva Convention addresses unlawful combatants (and defines them). The state holding them has the option to prosecute them civilly (as was done in the Sandrock/UK and Dostler/US cases)

Posted by Slenter Panda4300 2022-06-21 06:48|| 2022-06-21 06:48|| Front Page Top

#2 So this applies to the Wagner Group as well?

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-21 06:56|| 2022-06-21 06:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Lack of reading comprehension is a tragedy.

Posted by badanov 2022-06-21 07:06|| 2022-06-21 07:06|| Front Page Top

#4 I suspect they'll be held for ransom.... some lessening of US support for Ukraine, most likely.

Posted by Mercutio 2022-06-21 07:15|| 2022-06-21 07:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Someone needs to read up about the consequence of Malmedy*. There is an old phrase in war - those who show no quarter to others should expect none in return.

*for the Canadians, it started in Normandy.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-06-21 08:03|| 2022-06-21 08:03|| Front Page Top

#6 If they were enlisted into the Ukraine military they are not mercs.

Posted by 49 Pan 2022-06-21 08:05|| 2022-06-21 08:05|| Front Page Top

#7 I've been reading reports in Russian press about American and western European mercenaries helping Kiev dating back to 2014.

Since the Ukrainians have been firing on civilian areas all during that time, anyone associated with Kiev during that time is in legal jeopardy for all that destruction and deaths.

If Russian intelligence has those names, if they are caught, uniformed in the present day or not, they are hosed.

Posted by badanov 2022-06-21 08:32|| 2022-06-21 08:32|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ Probably take that assessment to the bank.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-21 08:34|| 2022-06-21 08:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Giving AK-47's to the civilian populace (unless debunked as more UKR bovine egesta propaganda) might not have helped matters, either.

Posted by DooDahMan 2022-06-21 08:35|| 2022-06-21 08:35|| Front Page Top

#10 So do the Russian-supported "separatists" also qualify as mercenaries? Is there any chance they'll ever see trial for shooting down a civilian airliner?

And since you want to ignore the question about the Wagner Group, how about the Syrians the Russians sent to fight in Ukraine?

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-21 08:36|| 2022-06-21 08:36|| Front Page Top

#11 I thought the Ukes shot down that Malaysian Airlines plane. (But, OH NO, not another KLM 007 "spy plane".)

And isn't there a report that an UKR air traffic controller told the pilot to reduce altitude -- coincidentally to be in range of the missile?

Posted by DooDahMan 2022-06-21 08:41|| 2022-06-21 08:41|| Front Page Top

#12 The Russians aren't fucking around about mercenaries on the other side of the line.

Posted by badanov 2022-06-21 08:42|| 2022-06-21 08:42|| Front Page Top

#13 And they shouldn't.

Posted by DooDahMan 2022-06-21 08:43|| 2022-06-21 08:43|| Front Page Top

#14 Ref #10: If the 1978 downing of Air Rhodesia Flight 825 is any indicator, probably not.

UMTALI, Rhodesia, Feb. 12, 1979 — An Air Rhodesia plane that military sources said had been hit by a missile fired by guerrilla forces crashed and burned shortly after takeoff from the resort town of Kariba today. All 59 people aboard were killed.

Link

Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-21 08:44|| 2022-06-21 08:44|| Front Page Top

#15 #10 Rob - re Wagner - the Ukrainians “may” prosecute them civilly if they choose. Same rules for all sides under the Geneva Conventions

Posted by Cloluck Bourbon1058 2022-06-21 09:05|| 2022-06-21 09:05|| Front Page Top

#16 #15 -- You'd think so, wouldn't you?

My recollection is it was the "ethnic Russian separatists" who shot down the Malaysian jetliner. I'll consider non-Russian sources that dispute that.

(Because the Russians were supplying the "separatists" with weapons and manpower.)

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-21 09:20|| 2022-06-21 09:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Is Ukraine even a signatory of the Geneva Conventions?

Posted by Glenmore 2022-06-21 09:49|| 2022-06-21 09:49|| Front Page Top

#18 I've been reading reports in Russian press about American and western European mercenaries helping Kiev dating back to 2014.

Since the Ukrainians have been firing on civilian areas all during that time, anyone associated with Kiev during that time is in legal jeopardy for all that destruction and deaths.

If Russian intelligence has those names, if they are caught, uniformed in the present day or not, they are hosed.

Mail them your name. During the terms of your enlistment a US-aligned entity bombed civilian areas in Gaza.

I know this because it happens every damn year.

Giving AK-47's to the civilian populace (unless debunked as more UKR bovine egesta propaganda) might not have helped matters, either.

OOh, guess what other countries let its citizens have military grade weapons. One's the US, and the other's the aforementioned US-allied entity.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-21 11:29|| 2022-06-21 11:29|| Front Page Top

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