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2007-06-28 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by lotp 2007-06-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 The NRA needs to hammer the issue publically every chance it gets. The ATF, FBI and local law enforcement have total access to this data. What keeps getting squished is politicians getting the data. Bloomberg RUINED a number of active investigations by using this data in his lawsuits against gunshops. The problem is keeping idiot politico's out of it. They have no need or reason for being allowed access to the data and there's lots of reasons against it.

So anytime they claim law enforcement can't get it, it's a FLAT OUT LIE.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2007-06-28 02:32|| 2007-06-28 02:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Google "no duty to protect" and you will get all the classic literature on US case law on police protection. SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled: cops have no duty to protect individuals unless it arises in the act of a crime against person, to which a cop has a present ability to respond. Even there, "officer safety" overrides your need for armed or other protection.

Ergo: you have a common law right to protect yourself, and a constitutional right to bear arms in that regard. Frankly, I don't know anyone living in a rural area who does not own a gun. And if they didn't, I would buy one for them.

Posted by McZoid 2007-06-28 02:52|| 2007-06-28 02:52|| Front Page Top

#3 The police, by their presence, do offer a passive form of protection against crime. Not an active one.

The primary job of the police is to deal with crime after the fact - investigation, arrest, prosecution. This isn't a hit on them - I believe that for the most part they work hard at these things - but it isn't active protection.

I agree with McZoid, but I'll go further. Not only do you have the right to protect yourself and your family, you have a responsibility to do so, rural or not.

The true test in this struggle will be whether or not the freshman "conservative, pro-gun" democrats in Congress really are what they said they were during their campaigns. I'm skeptical, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

Posted by no mo uro 2007-06-28 06:00|| 2007-06-28 06:00|| Front Page Top

#4 If, like me, you've stopped sending money to the GOP, consider sending it to the NRA instead...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-06-28 07:57|| 2007-06-28 07:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Any government that disarms its citizens assumes strict liability to protect them from crime. How about that, John Edwards?

Posted by Gary and the Samoyeds">Gary and the Samoyeds 2007-06-28 08:49|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2007-06-28 08:49|| Front Page Top

#6 If you're a gun owner or a 2d rights advocate (imho) - you should join the NRA &/or one of the many great grass roots RKBA organizations out there. If not, you might as well put yourself in the minus column on the issue.

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-06-28 14:15|| 2007-06-28 14:15|| Front Page Top

#7 I WANT THAT SHIRT.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-06-28 17:59|| 2007-06-28 17:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Reminds me of the old joke about the bar that's so tough they check everybody at the door for a gun or knife, if you don't have one, they'll loan you one.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-06-28 18:08|| 2007-06-28 18:08|| Front Page Top

#9 NRA Life Member here, BH6.

Posted by Mac 2007-06-28 19:09|| 2007-06-28 19:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Jason Walters

You've got another long time NRA member right here. I'm also a member of the Second Amendment Foundation, Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms, and for many years the California Pistol and Rifle Organization.

It costs very little to belong to an RTKBA organization, and they routinely and successfully fight out of their weight class across the country. Please donate to them if you can.

Posted by Secret Master 2007-06-28 20:54|| 2007-06-28 20:54|| Front Page Top

#11 Whoops! Well, what the heck - I guess I'm not "Secret Master" anymore!

Posted by Secret Master 2007-06-28 20:55|| 2007-06-28 20:55|| Front Page Top

#12 That the same Jason Walters who was XO of D/SE recently?

Posted by lotp 2007-06-28 21:09|| 2007-06-28 21:09|| Front Page Top

#13 Cancel that - different spelling.

Posted by lotp 2007-06-28 21:11|| 2007-06-28 21:11|| Front Page Top

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