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2006-07-01 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Fred 2006-07-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11140 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Fine Olde California families. Abdel Nasser Eid Youssef Ibrahim and Amal Ahmed Ewis-abd Motelib. Yep. Just who you'd likely meet at your normal Irvine PTA meeting.

Castillians, maybe?

Posted by Gromorong Cruper1582 2006-07-01 04:51|| 2006-07-01 04:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Abdel Nasser Eid Youssef Ibrahim, 45, and his former wife, Amal Ahmed Ewis-abd Motelib, 43

And here I thought it were Mr & Ms Simon Legree.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-07-01 06:21|| 2006-07-01 06:21|| Front Page Top

#3 I notice the article very deliberately skates around the concept of whether or not these people are Americans, that means they are NOT.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-01 08:02|| 2006-07-01 08:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Rephrase that, "American Citizens"

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-01 08:05|| 2006-07-01 08:05|| Front Page Top

#5 1. I'll bet the wench speaks excellent English.

2. I'll be there's a lot more of this going on than
Khaled Abou El Fadl admits.

3. UP TO 3 years in prison for enslavement? On the 143 anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg? At leat 10.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-01 08:11|| 2006-07-01 08:11|| Front Page Top

#6 The girl came to the U.S. on a visitor's visa that expired six months after she came to Irvine.

And of course ICE/HLS never follow up. Just another consequence of our government turning its back on its responsibilities. GW thinks 'vigilantes' is a dirty word, but its real meaning is that he and the entire government structure has failed, absolutely failed, to carry out its end of the bargain, that being what Jefferson wrote over two hundred years ago - "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Lead or follow, but get the heck out of the way.

Posted by Uninter Whereting4376 2006-07-01 08:52|| 2006-07-01 08:52|| Front Page Top

#7 They have to pay the girl $100,00 just to start, Nimble Spemble. There may well be large fines, too. And when they get out of prison (assuming they don't simply run, forfeiting bail and probably resulting in their property being sequestered or confiscated -- thoughts on this from Rantburg's legal eagles?) they'll be deported forever, losing the comfortable American lifestyle they're so fond of. Their children are not going to be happy about the changes, especially if they have to live with relatives back home until their parents can join them.

I agree with Uninter Whereting4376 -- this is as much an immigration enforcement issue as a slavery one. Homeland Security would be able to be much more effective if so much of their time wasn't tied up dealing with decades of re-filed paperwork for those trying to do things legally. Turn a coupld of newly minted Harvard MBAs lose on the situation, for goodness' sake!

Posted by trailing wife 2006-07-01 09:09|| 2006-07-01 09:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Only thing that would even nearly be effective would be a kind of passive radio tag "Here-I-Am" like the kind the AKC uses for expensive show dogs, and then you run into a whole host of legal issues, plus it's not foolproof, you'd have thousands of back alley "Surgeons" cutting them out.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-01 09:20|| 2006-07-01 09:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Demonstrations against modern-day slavery by Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc., to start in 5, 4, 3....

Oh, wait - Abdel and his wife aren't white Christians. ~~And the usual suspects can't figure how to make a buck out of it.~~

Nevermind.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-07-01 09:30|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-07-01 09:30|| Front Page Top

#10 TW, don't disagree about the immigration aspect, but ifg 3 years is the max sentence, they'll be out in 18 months. I don't care if they are then deported, 18 months is too little for slavery. Because I bet there is a lot more of this going on. Especially with Saudis.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-01 11:08|| 2006-07-01 11:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Homaidan Ali Al-Turki, 36, and his wife, Sarah Khonaizan, 35, appear to be a model immigrant couple. They arrived in America in 2000 and now live with their four children in an upscale Denver suburb. Mr. Al-Turki is a graduate student in linguistics at the University of Colorado, specializing in Arabic intonation and focus prosody. He donates money to the Linguistic Society of America and is chief executive of Al-Basheer Publications and Translations, a bookstore specializing in titles about Islam.

Last week, however, the FBI accused the couple of enslaving an Indonesian woman who is in her early 20s. For four years, reads the indictment, they created "a climate of fear and intimidation through rape and other means." The slave woman cooked, cleaned, took care of the children, and performed other tasks for little or no pay, fearing that if she did not obey, "she would suffer serious harm."
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2687

It's not like its unusual or something. Another wonderful gift of the leftwing multicultural tranzies to America.

Posted by Uninter Whereting4376 2006-07-01 12:26|| 2006-07-01 12:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Several cases like that over the years here, mostly slaveholders from Africa & Middle East who held up fellow country girls (mostly) in domestic slavery; basically, they acted like if they still were in the old homeland. In fact, there's a french ngo against this trend. another benefit of multiculturalism and rampant unassimilated immigration. To be honest, there also was a case involving two "gauls" and an african woman, who kille done of them after being raped, but this is the only one I can remember, and it was at least 10 years ago; otherwise, this type of abuse crops regularly now and then, and it even seems very fashionable among wealthy arabs/africans (most notably oil sheiks and diplomats), who by the way seem pretty much above the law with that.

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-01 14:55|| 2006-07-01 14:55|| Front Page Top

#13 "TW, don't disagree about the immigration aspect, but ifg 3 years is the max sentence, they'll be out in 18 months."

Federal charges: they'll do 80 percent of their sentence.

Posted by Mark E. 2006-07-01 17:59|| 2006-07-01 17:59|| Front Page Top

#14 then deportation

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-07-01 18:11|| 2006-07-01 18:11|| Front Page Top

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3. UP TO 3 years in prison for enslavement? On the 143 anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg? At leat 10.

No prison time.

Hang them.

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