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2006-07-06 Britain
UK Muslim: Don't Warn Cops Of Future 7-7 Terror
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Posted by Anginens Threreng8133 2006-07-06 02:23|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Time to go, or be taken out.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-07-06 08:56||   2006-07-06 08:56|| Front Page Top

#2 This from the guy who was just fined a mere £500 for organising the cartoon protest in London.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-07-06 09:06||   2006-07-06 09:06|| Front Page Top

#3 “I’m doing my best to create afraid of a Bosnia or Kosovo-style reality here in Great Britain.”
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-06 09:15||   2006-07-06 09:15|| Front Page Top

#4 “I’m afraid of a Bosnia or Kosovo-style reality here in Great Britain.”

Well, he shouldn't, they were both great victories for islam, thanks to the West in general and an oral-sex afficionado and his wise advisers in particular... so much than in fact, according to René Marchand, a writer about the islam challenge to France, the openly acknowledged (by an algerian fundie who told him that) plan of its muslim takeover follows the same lines.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 10:11||   2006-07-06 10:11|| Front Page Top

#5 anon5089: "...so much than in fact, according to René Marchand, a writer about the islam challenge to France, the openly acknowledged (by an algerian fundie who told him that) plan of its muslim takeover follows the same lines."

Do you think you could re-word this into something coherent?
Posted by Fur Trapper 2006-07-06 10:16||   2006-07-06 10:16|| Front Page Top

#6 Ok, I'll try, remember english is not my native language : René Marchand is a guy who wrote two books on islam, and in the late 1990's he met with an algerian islamist in Paris, fighting against the Algiers junta, who told him what was the (pre 9/11) "plan" for the takeover of France : nothing fancy...
First have nature takes it course, and have as many muslims come there as possible, having them retaining their islamic identity by networking the community and enforcing it (scarves, food, etc, etc,...) while doing guerilla "lawfare" against the authorities, then "massify" them (IE make them a separate entity within France) by committing terror and forcing the french authorities and population to react (think Algeria independence war, this was the same strategy to detach the muslims from the french).

Then, there would be a takeover of that community by the islamists, and there would be a "cat and mouse" game with the authorities, bad cop (terror)/good cop ("moderate muslims"), to have separate laws and sovereignty for muslims, up to the point of having "leopard skin spots" islamic communities in France where muslim rule themselves, as protestant "safe areas" during religious wars.

From there, over the course of time, theses leopard spots would expand and merge, thanks to continouus immigration and demographic growth, to finally take over what would left of France when they're strong enough.

All this would be made in a global muslim insurgency climate, with the by-then islamic Algeria acting as a sponsor and safe territoy, and with the muslim communities "protected" from the french by the "international community" à la Bosnia or Kosovo. Money and volunteers would of course flow from the oumma.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 10:51||   2006-07-06 10:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Btw, the important point in that "plan" is demography (wait until critical mass is attained), and the "subversion of the world order" to tie the hands of the french, kinda like Israel is supposed to be bound by rules its ennemies are not even asked to follow.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 10:58||   2006-07-06 10:58|| Front Page Top

#8 The important assumption of the plan is that the Islamists and their children would not be assimilated into the larger community and could maintain their seperate identity and nurse their grievances. They were accomodated by the Europeans.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-06 11:02||   2006-07-06 11:02|| Front Page Top

#9 which is supposedly one of the main point in the cultural aspect of the Eurabia agenda, if Bat Ye'or is correct, the european Enlightened Elites having renounced to assimilate the migrants and even to promote their culture. Petrodollars are that good.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 11:05||   2006-07-06 11:05|| Front Page Top

#10 And how in hell do you assimilate people who are teached they're superior, when your own self-image is disastrous? How do you assimilate such people to a civilization which longs for death itself? Maybe europeans are evil racist, maybe they're ordinary people not far removed from the americans (though immigration would be much less of a cultural habit, I dunno), what do you think?
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 11:08||   2006-07-06 11:08|| Front Page Top

#11 I think the mistakes were made 40 years ago when the arabs and turks were first admitted but not absorbed and assimilated. The Euros are not so much evil racists as the victims of bad decisions uncorrected on a timely basis. I thimk you are right to identify the lack of self respect among Europeans as the factor that makes it difficult to see a civil way out of this.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-06 11:14||   2006-07-06 11:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Plus, about 49% of the US electorate voted for people who wish to follow Europe's example. Not good. I don't think you're safe enough to take comfort in our problems, we're in the same boat.

Again, I think Europe is the prize, the USA are the ennemy (if the jihadis had they way, we'd be colonized and assimilated into the oumma, you'd be nuked), so we should be much more concerned, but ultimately, you will be the next ones.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-07-06 11:15||   2006-07-06 11:15|| Front Page Top

#13 word.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-06 11:17||   2006-07-06 11:17|| Front Page Top

#14 This f**kin' clown needs to be exiled immediately , like the chump before him. His vective is dangerous. Give him a ride back home. No parachute provided. These people need to be removed. Permanently.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-07-06 11:50||   2006-07-06 11:50|| Front Page Top

#15 I don't think you're safe enough to take comfort in our problems, we're in the same boat.
(if the jihadis had they way, we'd be colonized and assimilated into the oumma, you'd be nuked), so we should be much more concerned, but ultimately, you will be the next ones

I doubt anyone here takes comfort in Old Europe's problems, but we do resent the Old European's superior airs.

Islam may nuke the USA, but they will cease to exist when they do. Old Europe may hope the exchange happens before they are absorbed into the Umma - an example of feeding the crocodile hoping to be eaten last.
Posted by SR-71 2006-07-06 12:20||   2006-07-06 12:20|| Front Page Top

#16 I'd fight for Europe. Not out of any great love of what it's become, but rather out of love of my own children and their future.
Posted by 11A5S 2006-07-06 19:51||   2006-07-06 19:51|| Front Page Top

#17 I don't think I would want my son to fight for Europe. One reason Europe is the way it is now is 50 years of living in an artificial socialist utopia, in peace guaranteed by someone else - the USA.

Now we hear "Thanks for nothing." Their choices are to find their own spines, or to bow their necks to the scimitar.
Posted by SR-71 2006-07-06 21:15||   2006-07-06 21:15|| Front Page Top

#18 They'll figure it out, but they'll need our help by the time they do. If this is an even numbered day, I'd probably help, except for France, but next year I'll be checking to see if its modulus 3. They just don't learn or show any positive direction of growth. It's very discouraging, especially whey you know, just from the folks who visit here, there's lots of folks over there pulling their hair out about the way things are being done. Sad.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-06 21:54||   2006-07-06 21:54|| Front Page Top

#19 I hope they do. As far as helping them goes, umless they figure it out soon, I believe we will be too busy fighting for our own and our children's lives to worry about them.
Posted by SR-71 2006-07-06 22:07||   2006-07-06 22:07|| Front Page Top

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