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2007-07-06 India-Pakistan
Bill Roggio: Pakistan may capitulate to the Red Mosque
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Posted by Sherry 2007-07-06 15:58|| || Front Page|| [11137 views ]  Top

#1 Serious mistake. That which does not kill them makes them stronger.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-07-06 16:19||   2007-07-06 16:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Surprise meter didn't budge.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-07-06 16:33||   2007-07-06 16:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Surprise meter didn't budge.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-07-06 16:33||   2007-07-06 16:33|| Front Page Top

#4 Agreed; they were surrounded and on the ropes so who caves? too bad the guys on the ground with the guns missed that airplane....
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-07-06 16:35||   2007-07-06 16:35|| Front Page Top

#5 If he caves - CHINA will NOT be HAPPY!.

Posted by 3dc 2007-07-06 16:50||   2007-07-06 16:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Just when you think it can't get any more loony, the theater of the absurd becomes a farce. Exactly who does Musharraf think keeps on trying to kill him? Gremlins?
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-06 16:57||   2007-07-06 16:57|| Front Page Top

#7 If I was him, I would level the mosque and turn it into a public bathroom.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-07-06 17:02||   2007-07-06 17:02|| Front Page Top

#8 I suspect that in time some of them will disappear mysteriously if they accept "amnesty" and surrender. At least I hope so.
Posted by Darrell 2007-07-06 17:29||   2007-07-06 17:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Just what makes you think he's telling the truth?
promise anything, once the cops have them "What promises?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-07-06 17:42||   2007-07-06 17:42|| Front Page Top

#10 I thought the US had the green light to operate in Pakistan? Musharraf can pardon; US can send a guided missle.
Posted by airandee 2007-07-06 17:52||   2007-07-06 17:52|| Front Page Top

#11 Limited special ops or air strikes in Waziristan and the NWFP, perhaps. Not to stike openly in the city that houses the military command and ISI, I think.
Posted by lotp 2007-07-06 18:03||   2007-07-06 18:03|| Front Page Top

#12 promise anything, once the cops have them "What promises?

That would be the Muslim way of doing things. Taqiyya should go both ways.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-06 18:04||   2007-07-06 18:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Jamaat-ud-Dawa has been put on the Specially Designated Global Terrorist list.

did anyone else here think of Animal House and the 'double secret probation'?
Posted by Abu do you love 2007-07-06 18:52||   2007-07-06 18:52|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm not a John Derbyshire of The Corner fan in any way... but I did find this comment interesting

The Last Straw [John Derbyshire]

An arresting sentence in this BBC report on Pakistan President Musharraf's latest troubles:

"The turning point clearly was the abduction of the Chinese massage parlour girls," says a senior diplomat in Islamabad.

"We know that the Chinese sent a very strong message that they could take losses in Balochistan or the tribal belt but were not prepared to see their citizens abducted and tortured bang in the heart of the capital."

This is all to do with Musharraf having finally authorized an assault on the "Red Mosque" seminary in Pakistan's capital. It's a nest of radical jihadis, who have been making a nuisance of themselves going round the city imposing Islamic virtue, Taliban-style. One of those impositions somehow led to them kidnapping the madam of a Chinese-staffed brothel much frequented by Pakistan's movers and shakers (if you'll pardon the expression).

Musharraf has been loth to stomp on the jihadis for all the usual reasons—mainly, the Pak army's long, long record of using jihadis as proxy troops in various conflicts (Afghanistan, Kashmir,...). Those jihadis really come in handy. However, the kidnapping of the madam got the Chinese mad. Everybody else—including us—is chronically mad with Musharraf for foot-dragging over his country's jihadis, but China's too close (they share a 300-mile border) and too mean (WAY meaner than us), and the Pak-Chinese relationship goes too far back—all the way back to Cold War days, when the line-up was Russia with India, Pakistan with China (and then, after Nixon/Kissinger, with us).
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2007-07-06 19:05||   2007-07-06 19:05|| Front Page Top

#15 Red Star Turban. ION, various pro-CHINA Netters are still belabeling Paki as future PRC territory.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-07-06 19:20||   2007-07-06 19:20|| Front Page Top

#16 If I recall correctly, didn't China give Pakistan the nuclear bomb technology? I seem to remember someone commenting Dr. Khan's PhD (such as it was) being in geology, or some such, nothing anywhere near physics or even engineering.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-06 19:51||   2007-07-06 19:51|| Front Page Top

#17 I believe Khan was a metalurgist.
Posted by Mike N.  2007-07-06 20:15||   2007-07-06 20:15|| Front Page Top

#18 I wasn't terribly good at chemistry (a side effect of being the child of a biochemist, I've been told). I don't remember, do uranium and plutonium count as metals?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-06 20:20||   2007-07-06 20:20|| Front Page Top

#19 He did post doc work at a Netherlands research lab that was engaged in uranium enrichment research and gas centrifuge technology.

The Dutch finally became suspicious but the CIA wanted to keep monitoring him to figure out who he was connected to/with. He skipped town back to Pakistan and Bhutto put him in charge of the effort for a Pakistani nuclear bomb.

The lab was/is in Rawalpundi.
Posted by lotp 2007-07-06 20:30||   2007-07-06 20:30|| Front Page Top

#20 They are both metals.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-07-06 20:33||   2007-07-06 20:33|| Front Page Top

#21 Although they are not in metallic form when run through a gas diffusion device.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-07-06 20:33||   2007-07-06 20:33|| Front Page Top

#22 Or centrifuge or other type of device. Well, you get the idea.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-07-06 20:34||   2007-07-06 20:34|| Front Page Top

#23 The centrifuges are metal. If his expertice came into play, I would think that's where.
Posted by Mike N.  2007-07-06 22:05||   2007-07-06 22:05|| Front Page Top

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