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2007-07-06 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Fred 2007-07-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 To be fair to the president, as both the civilian military leader of the country and its primary diplomat he faces a tricky conflict with regard to Islam. Nevertheless, attempts at explaining the reality must still be made.

One one hand, the president wishes to reassure Muslims worldwide that America only wishes to target their militant extremist subgroup. But since that subgroup draws its inspiration directly from their holy text, he is forced to misrepresent or willingly overlook the nature of their faith (i.e. "religion of peace").

On the other hand, his role as the director of the military requires him to be frank about the commonality in the various worldwide conflicts where America has a compelling interest. Before his term ends we may be drawn into conflict with Iran, Pakistan or a host of other nations with strong extremist Islamic sympathies and ignoring the elephant in the room will undermine any effort.

The domestic security situation also calls for honest discussion about the nature of the threat, which is why our next president must demonstrate not only this understanding but a superior ability to educate the American people about it.

(And judging from the groundswell of popular support for Fred Thompson so far, a lot of people seem to agree with this analysis.)

Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-07-06 02:12|| 2007-07-06 02:12|| Front Page Top

#2 A huge part of the President's failings in this regard stem from his overly optimistic and naive view of human nature. This is just part of who he is -- a result of both his gentile upbringing and deep faith. It explains his silly statements about Muslims yearning for freedom and liberty because he believes these desires are innate. It also explains his inability to prosecute a real war in which disproportionate force is used to utterly subdue the enemy.

Posted by Captain Lewis 2007-07-06 06:10|| 2007-07-06 06:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Psychological projection means: one sees what they want to see, based on their own need for security or moral clarification. It is unfortunate that this President can't read the Koran objectively. In fact, he lets Karen (Airhead) Hughes do it for him. Most of the right wing blogs have turned against him. While support held at the start of the Surge, it collapsed when he endorsed independence for Kosovo, notwithstanding American signatures on an armistice agreement that guarantees perpetual Serb sovereignty. Then there were the apologies for bombing "civilians" (read Taliban supporters) in Afghanistan's Helmand Province. Not to mention the fact that that junk state has gone beyond producers of raw opium, to full scale heroin refiners while under NATO occupation, whose member countries are being crippled by drug shipments through protected Kosovo. Then there is the missiles in Eastern Europe that locals don't want, which could be made unnecessary through greater integration with Eastern Europe and North Asia, including Russia. Then the deference of Middle East diplomacy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which exists to advance Islam alone, by enforcing the aggressive Koran dictate that Bush can't understand. And the President appears willing to coast for another 18 months, while Iranian proliferaton and interference in Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza and Syria, grows exponentially.

Someone pull the knife out of my back.

Posted by McZoid 2007-07-06 06:29|| 2007-07-06 06:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Captain Lewis:

In the Fall of 2001, someone told me that the war on terror (or Muslim aggression) cannot be won until Muslims do the necessary killing for us. That means: nation destruction.

Posted by McZoid 2007-07-06 06:39|| 2007-07-06 06:39|| Front Page Top

#5 McZoid:

Are you suggesting that GWB and the administration understand the "nation destruction" concept and are being clever about it? I don't see how, left to killing themselves, the Islam Problem will get fixed. For that solution to work millions upon millions would need to kill eachother. It's hard to imagine how that could happen fast enough.

Posted by Captain Lewis 2007-07-06 07:49|| 2007-07-06 07:49|| Front Page Top

#6 George W. Bush rededicated the center last week. His 1,600-word speech also praised medieval Islamic culture ("We come to express our appreciation for a faith that has enriched civilization for centuries"

But he failed to mention that same medieval culture is trying to tear the hell out of civilization today and destroy everyone else's culture.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-06 07:54|| 2007-07-06 07:54|| Front Page Top

#7 What do you mean goes? George II have started by trying to eat his cake and keep it. Lets face it people: the times call for Andrew Jackson, but that we have is Woodrow Wilson with speech impediment.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-06 08:08|| 2007-07-06 08:08|| Front Page Top

#8 The last half of Bush's presidency seems to be a race to the bottom against the dhimocrats. Judging by the approval poles, the dhims are still winning the race.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-07-06 09:26|| 2007-07-06 09:26|| Front Page Top

#9 When the weak, meek, and dhimmi race to abandon everything of value, then good men need do nothing. So for now, we wait as Bush, Olmert, and Brown plunge headlong into the abiss. Keep your guns clean and store ammunition, food, and water because there is little time left.
Will it be England, Israel, or Pakistan ?

Posted by wxjames 2007-07-06 10:05|| 2007-07-06 10:05|| Front Page Top

#10 As Diana West puts it, "Nearly six years after September 11 - nearly six years after first visiting the Islamic Center and proclaiming 'Islam is peace' - Mr. Bush has learned nothing."

The OIC debacle is glaring proof of this.

A huge part of the President's failings in this regard stem from his overly optimistic and naive view of human nature. This is just part of who he is -- a result of both his gentile upbringing and deep faith.

Spot on, Captain Lewis! I have long maintainedand been equally belabored for itthat Bush's sense of religiosity prevents him from comprehending that another "religion" may instead be a political ideology masquerading as a faith. His own sense of evangelism blinds him to Islam's vicious zealotry.

It explains his silly statements about Muslims yearning for freedom and liberty because he believes these desires are innate. It also explains his inability to prosecute a real war in which disproportionate force is used to utterly subdue the enemy.

Every letter and dot! Disproportionate force is the only tool that will ever gain us any ground against our Muslim foes. They respect nothing else and will respond to nothing less. Only when thousandsor tens of thousandsof Muslims die for each victim of a terrorist atrocity will they begin to clean their own house.

I don't see how, left to killing themselves, the Islam Problem will get fixed. For that solution to work millions upon millions would need to kill eachother. It's hard to imagine how that could happen fast enough.

It won't. Ideal as that approach may seem to be, it will not prevent Islam's headlong rush to acquire nuclear weapons. To date absolutely nothing indicates that Muslims have any will to police their own ranks. To the contrary, any reform within Islam has been in the direction of greater Islamic "purity" and increased radicalism. That Muslims expect the West to clean up their jihadist filth and demand that we do it in a delicate fashion is the height of surrealism, not to mention insulting in the extreme. That Bush is indeed doing exactly this represents a pinnacle in delusional thinking.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-06 14:37|| 2007-07-06 14:37|| Front Page Top

#11 "Goes" wobbly? He's been nothing BUT wobbly for years now.

Posted by Crusader 2007-07-06 15:01|| 2007-07-06 15:01|| Front Page Top

#12 To put it most simply: the problem w/most westerners is that they believe muslims think like we do.

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-07-06 18:25|| 2007-07-06 18:25|| Front Page Top

#13 the problem w/most westerners is that they believe muslims think ~~like we do~~.

There, fixed that for ya.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-06 21:16|| 2007-07-06 21:16|| Front Page Top

#14 To put it simply; purchase your firearms and ammo ASAP. "Be Prepared". It's the old (USA) Boy Scout motto, that "They" chose to drop decades ago. That simple, direct maxim always made so much logical sense to me. We lost the BSA moral compass soon after we scrapped the Motto. I always loved seeing that decal on the the VW Microbuses and had no problem accepting the concept.

Posted by Asymmetrical T">Asymmetrical T 2007-07-06 22:03|| 2007-07-06 22:03|| Front Page Top

#15 The Boy Scouts -- at least the ones I know, Asymmetrical T -- still make a point of being prepared, regardless of the motto.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-06 22:35|| 2007-07-06 22:35|| Front Page Top

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