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2004-07-07 Caribbean-Latin America
U.S. Asks Why Marine's Funeral Disrupted
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Posted by Steve White 2004-07-07 12:32:25 AM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 These stories are hurting the Mexican cause in America more than those short-sighted resentful chauvinists on the poorer side of the border could possibly imagine.
Posted by someone 2004-07-07 2:52:51 AM||   2004-07-07 2:52:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 more than those short-sighted resentful chauvinists on the poorer side of the border
Explanez vous?
Posted by rex 2004-07-07 3:41:02 AM||   2004-07-07 3:41:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't think the fallout will be that severe. Mexico has a law against armed foreign troops on their soil. Yes, it was a funeral for a US Marine, from Mexico, (and who had been returned to be buried in Mexico) and the guns were replicas instead of the real thing. However, I do think Mexico has a point in this.

You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there. Even if that means not carrying fake guns to the funeral of your fallen comrade.
Posted by Ben  2004-07-07 4:12:02 AM||   2004-07-07 4:12:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there
Works for me. What about Mexican nationals respecting our house, our sovereignity, our border, the immigration queue to visit/live in our house?
Posted by rex 2004-07-07 4:45:44 AM||   2004-07-07 4:45:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Ok. They can quit carrying guns when they come here then. :p
Posted by Anonymous5430 2004-07-07 6:22:38 AM||   2004-07-07 6:22:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Here's the story on Mexico's "apology" - quotes for not really being an apology - more an explanation.
Posted by .com 2004-07-07 8:05:30 AM||   2004-07-07 8:05:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 #13 Contact the Mexican embassy here:

Embassy of mexico
1911 Pennsylvania av
Washington DC 20006
USA
Telephone: (202) 7281600

Posted by: Parabellum 2004-07-06 7:02:20 PM
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-07-07 10:11:45 AM||   2004-07-07 10:11:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 We will respect their laws when they respect ours, especially the immigration laws and securing the border.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-07-07 10:12:47 AM||   2004-07-07 10:12:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 They should be forced to the the I'm Sorry Song.
Posted by Calvin 2004-07-07 10:20:34 AM||   2004-07-07 10:20:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 How about the Mexican Army supplying an Honor Guard as a courtesey?

Nah...
Posted by mojo  2004-07-07 11:01:25 AM||   2004-07-07 11:01:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I speculate that the anthem of the USMC probably is controversial south of the border. I think that the marines are hated throughout Latin America most of the time. The exception would be in a situation like Haiti where all of the sudden they become popular.
Posted by Super Hose 2004-07-07 11:43:39 AM||   2004-07-07 11:43:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 This is typical of the corrupt, posturing, preening pricks that run Mexico. The Mexican government has always had a double standard. They ferociously guard their southern border to prevent illegals from crossing and will shoot any who try. At the same time, they openly promote illegal immigration across their northern border to the point of providing instructions and survival kits to those preparing to sneak into the US. They worry about ceremonial rifles while Tiajuana is rife with shootouts, mob hits, assassinations, etc. (Only Hollywood puts more bullets through the windshield than Mexican assassins.) Rather than trying to stem the tide of illegals across the border by the "humane" catch and release program, we should kick the Mexican Government in the groin by removing the economic incentive. The US should make it illegal to electronically transfer money from the US to Mexico. Now even the US Post Office offers the secure transfer of dinero back to Mexico. If they can't send money back to Mexico, then the desirability of working at minimum wage in the US starts to pale and maybe a few more will stay in Mexico.
Posted by RWV 2004-07-07 12:19:14 PM||   2004-07-07 12:19:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Hmmm...The Mexican military isn't too concerned about carrying guns on American soil...there have been numerous incidents of armed incursions by Mexican army patrols into the back country of Imperial and San Diego Counties, California. It hardly ever makes even the local press. It is thought that some of these "Lost Patrols" are actually providing protection for sumgglers. Usually, when they are caught, the soldiers are sent back rather quickly although their weapons are sent back later - after running a serial number check on each one. One pistol taken from an officer proved to have been stolen in a theft in Central California.

Of course, it can go the other way too...I know of one U.S. Border Patrolman who was pulling over cars on a back road only to have each driver ask him why, since they were in Mexico. Sure enough, he somehow had crossed the border and was stopping every Mexican plated car on the Mexican highway. Busy day.
Posted by Tobacconist  2004-07-07 1:44:45 PM||   2004-07-07 1:44:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 More than likely the Mexicans simply coulodn't the difference between a "real" weapon and one used for ceromony. Hey, they can't help it.
Posted by Anonymous5596 2004-07-07 2:15:53 PM||   2004-07-07 2:15:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there.

At the expense of denying the honor to the fallen soldier's ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation? I dunno, that just has a bad ring to it. A burial in Arlington would have been much more fitting.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-07 2:45:21 PM||   2004-07-07 2:45:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Whatever their explanation it's a farce. The U.S. coordinated the funeral with the Mexican government. There was NO NEED to have Mexican soldiers on hand to check the Marines for weapons. I stick by my comment yesterday that this was a set up by someone there or here to embarrass the Marines. Sad that we had an opportunity to share our grief and honor a son of both countries. I hope Fox doesn’t ask for anything soon (or ever).
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-07-07 3:43:56 PM||   2004-07-07 3:43:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 You must understand these people. On one trip a soldier at a barricaded drug inspection roadblock discovered my asthma inhaler in the car. He waived it around at his Captain shouting "mira, mira" (look! look!).
____________________And yes, it is true! Federale officers reguarly dress in bluejeans, snap-button shirts, nice cowboy hats, AND have their 45's or 9mm bulging inside the front of their pants...the last bit is (quite obviously) a very macho social statement...
Posted by borgboy 2004-07-07 6:41:31 PM||   2004-07-07 6:41:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 A couple of buddies of mine decide to DRIVE from Mass. to Honduras one time. The best piece of advice they got was "Don't stop for Mexican cops in the boonies. No matter what." So they're driving through some boony town down there and, sure enough, some fat slob in raggedy clothes and a badge comes staggering out of a saloon, stands in the middle of street, and motion them to stop. My buddy guns it and put him on the hood. When he finally got off, he put a few rounds in their trunk.
They sold the car in Honduras and flew back.
Posted by tu3031 2004-07-07 9:03:33 PM||   2004-07-07 9:03:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 #12 just explained it all correctly.Cut off the money transfers that Mexico was gouging anyway.Right on.
To #18.I drive all over Mexico.Hit check points all the time.Never an incident in twenty years.Sounds likeyour buddies got off the "beaten path".Heh Heh
Posted by rich woods  2004-07-07 9:20:21 PM||   2004-07-07 9:20:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Mexican Amry: The only one LESS distinguished than the French Army.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-07-07 10:36:58 PM||   2004-07-07 10:36:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Except for Cinco de mayo, OS. They beat the hell out of a frog army and then made it a national holiday. Do the Germans, British, Vikings, and Romans have similar holidays (or multiples) I wonder?
Posted by Jarhead 2004-07-07 11:22:53 PM||   2004-07-07 11:22:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Nah, Jarhead, they'd never get any work done if they did.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-07-08 12:01:16 AM||   2004-07-08 12:01:16 AM|| Front Page Top

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