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2007-07-11 Europe
French Muslims face hurdles in building mosques
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Posted by Fred 2007-07-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top
 File under: Global Jihad 

#1 “we can see that we are not just dealing with religion, but rather a political force.”

Precisely. Now you’ve got it. Remember, dear French friends, fire is your friend.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-07-11 01:08||   2007-07-11 01:08|| Front Page Top

#2 “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews all have a place to pray in dignity. Why not us?”

Last I checked: “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews” haven't been flying fully loaded passenger jet airliners into occupied skyscrapers.

Echoing the view of many Muslim leaders, Aboulbaki said France must “get its mosques out of the basements” if it wants its Muslim population to fully integrate into mainstream society.

Do tell. Now please go on to reassure us that once those mosques are built there will not be Muslim agitation to close down all liquor stores, charcuteries and wine bars within a 100 10 kilometer radius of them. The empty promises that Muslims will “fully integrate” have been heard before. No one with half a brain believes them anymore. Where are Saudi and Kuwaiti donations to help provide native French citizens with replacements for so many of their vehicles that were lost to banlieue Car-B-Ques?

“We are not against Islam as long as it remains a private matter,” said Vayssiere, a senior member of the far-right National Republican Mouvement (MNR). “What we want to halt is the Islamisation of our country. When we see in some towns that pork is no longer served in cafeterias, so as not to offend Muslims, or that municipal pools now offer separate swim hours for men and women, we can see that we are not just dealing with religion, but rather a political force.”

Clearly, Vayssiere gets it.

“Many mayors see a mosque in their community as a sort of mental clinic, with clearly identified people inmates that they could talk to and enlist for help,” said Geisser.

There, fixed that.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-11 01:36||   2007-07-11 01:36|| Front Page Top

#3 “What we want to halt is the Islamisation of our country. When we see in some towns that pork is no longer served in cafeterias, so as not to offend Muslims, or that municipal pools now offer separate swim hours for men and women, we can see that we are not just dealing with religion, but rather a political force.”

Confronting the Islamophobia of the far-right is not the only roadblock...

With the ability to inject a ludicrous and biased opinion so brazenly, this writer definitely has career options including working for the New York Times or the Washington Post.
Posted by Cluper Lumumba3694 2007-07-11 06:05||   2007-07-11 06:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Muslims don't integrate they metastatise new colonies in benefit jizya majority areas.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-07-11 06:15||   2007-07-11 06:15|| Front Page Top

#5 “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews all have a place to pray in dignity. Why not us?”

Show us all the great churches, temples and synagogues in muslim occupied Mideast, Africa and Asia. Please give directions to the Grand Synagogue in Mecca. The Saudi Tourist Bureau Brochure is a little vague.
Posted by ed 2007-07-11 06:38||   2007-07-11 06:38|| Front Page Top

#6 must “get its mosques out of the basements” if it wants its Muslim population to fully integrate into mainstream society

Bullsh*t. If they truly wanted to integrate they'd start by learning to speak French. In fact, mosques have a track record of creating MORE separation from the broader society. What they preach, in arabic and away from outsider scrutiny, foments hate, superiority and creates an environment where for some, at least, violence becomes acceptable -- valued and rewarded, even -- with no checks and balances.
Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan  2007-07-11 07:28||   2007-07-11 07:28|| Front Page Top

#7 "the Islamophobia of the far-right"

Definitiion: A phobia (from the Greek öüâïò "fear"), is an irrational, persistent fear of certain situations, objects, activities, or persons.

It's rational, therefor not a phobia, though many are responding as to a phobia (avoiding the cause). The appropriate response would be to make the cause avoid YOU.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-07-11 07:57||   2007-07-11 07:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Why should havens (mosques) of terrorism be built? Why should islamics be allowed to create a terroristic nest that is a threat to law and order and culture within a resident country? Why should islamics be allowed to do what they want in your country when it is the most intolerant religion barbaric repressive cult in the world.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-11 08:55||   2007-07-11 08:55|| Front Page Top

#9  Whenever I read "islamophobia" in the MSM, my BS alert starts flashing its red lights & a siren goes off. But mostly the term's foul odor alerts me.
Muslims all have a very large place to pray in dignity. It's called Saudi Arabia. Let them go there, and remain.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-07-11 09:23||   2007-07-11 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews all have a place to pray in dignity. Why not us?”

Because you worship evil. Aux armes citoyennes!
Posted by Excalibur 2007-07-11 09:27||   2007-07-11 09:27|| Front Page Top

#11 “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews all have a place to pray in dignity. Why not us?”

Well, see Mohamed, part of the problem is is that you even ask that question.
Posted by tu3031 2007-07-11 09:55||   2007-07-11 09:55|| Front Page Top

#12 I've come to believe that every time I hear or read the "islamophobia" that it is a smokescreen to just divert attention from what is really going on. Use of "islamophobia" is just Al-Takeyya (propaganda) in operation.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-11 11:04||   2007-07-11 11:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Despite a major fund-raising campaign, only 200,000 euros of the total 1.5 million euros needed to build the mosque have been raised from the local community made up mostly of Malians, north Africans, Senegalese and Muslims from the Comoros.

Couldn't get any help from the Soddies? That's a shame.

I would advise the French to pass a law real quick to forbid the use of foreign funds for purposes of building mosques.

BTW, that violin is way too big. What happened to the tiny one that they guy holds in the palm of his hand?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-07-11 12:27||   2007-07-11 12:27|| Front Page Top

#14 “The Catholics, Protestants and Jews all have a place to pray in dignity. Why not us?”

Same old blame card. They love to play on the moral and cultural underpinnings of the West by such trickery, in order to inflitrate, separate, and utlimately make war via direct jihad or causing various weakenings and disintegration of morale and cultural identify of the "infidels." It's major coup for them to be able to win any point, no matter how small, and they do congratulate themselves profusely when they do and bitch and whine and accuse until they get more.

Mosques are strategic planning facilities first and foremost, and have nothing at all to do with supposed goals of integration into the larger population of host countries.
Posted by ex-lib 2007-07-11 13:03||   2007-07-11 13:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Show us all the great churches, temples and synagogues in muslim occupied Mideast, Africa and Asia. Please give directions to the Grand Synagogue in Mecca. The Saudi Tourist Bureau Brochure is a little vague.

This is the bottom line: Reciprocity. Muslim majority nations have no freedom of religion. This should serve notice to the West of what to expect from Muslims who settle here.

All further construction of mosques in the West should be halted until the MME (Muslim Middle East) institutes genuine freedom of religion. They should be given a three to five year time frame to implement this. If they fail to do so, Islam should be outlawed and all mosques shuttered and demolished as outposts of religious intolerance. During the intervening timespan, for every Christian, Buddhist, Coptic, Greek Orthodox, Hindu temple, church or Jewish synagogue that is destroyed, a mosque in every Western country should be demolished.

Islam must be read the riot act. This putrescent gang of barbaric savages needs to be slapped down so hard that, when we're finished, only their hair doesn't hurt.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-11 13:51||   2007-07-11 13:51|| Front Page Top

#16 Getting rid of forward operating bases trouble moskkks is not something any western government will do until it's people leave it no choice. They might shut these down if they know the people are going take it upon themselves to shut down either the moskkks or the government. Western governments tend to lay around and eat grapes until people die in large numbers. We should work to change the political landscape and perhaps prepare for something more drastic if need be. We don't know if it will happen or not, but if our government remains full of apologists and Muslim toadies, the people just might chose the more direct option. We should not be totally unprepared for Extreme Moskkk Makeover.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-07-11 14:12||   2007-07-11 14:12|| Front Page Top

#17 Perhaps the issue is more fundamental: separation of church and state: if the Catholics, Protestants and jews all built on privately held land, then why should any particular group get assistance from the gov't? I think that perhaps that was the underlying issue, not one of trying to prevent the spread of a nasty form of religious syphillis.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-07-11 14:30||   2007-07-11 14:30|| Front Page Top

#18 One of the problems with islam is that its members seem to recognize no separation between church and state.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-11 17:28||   2007-07-11 17:28|| Front Page Top

#19 If any muslim ever tells me something along the lines that Jesus/Issa was their prophet, too, my response would be but you didn't learn anything from him, did you?

All Mo all the time.
Posted by Shusonter Grundy3567 2007-07-11 23:32||   2007-07-11 23:32|| Front Page Top

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