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2007-07-16 Olde Tyme Religion

Arab Columnist: Let's Accept the Truth of Our Own Defeats

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-07-16 11:34|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top
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#1 In English for the most sophisticated Arab audience, which is a start. Is anything similar being written in Arabic?

Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-16 12:09|| 2007-07-16 12:09|| Front Page Top

#2 I read the Daily Star. Glimpses of reality often surface in selected articles...if you can stomach the "Occupied Jerusalem" datelines...

Posted by borgboy 2007-07-16 12:58|| 2007-07-16 12:58|| Front Page Top

#3 We have allowed politics in the Arab world to be defined by slogans, not results. Our judgment of leaders can only be truly determined by what they do not just what they say.

Sounds like somebody finally got gobsmacked by Mr. Cause & Effect.

Where is the independent commission that studied Hizbullah's actions? Yes, the party's secretary general, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, was left standing, just as Abdel-Nasser was. But is that enough when their nations and people were left battered?

The author inadvertently identifies the real problem. Namely, that Nasrallah was left standing. This twisted maggot will lead Lebanon, Hezbollah and anyone else who follows him straight through the flaming gates of Hell without a backward glance.

Why is it that Arabs have such a propensity to live amid lies?

Its the only way that any of them can possibly ignore how Islams much vaunted moral purity has led to over a thousand years of comprehensive cultural and economic stagnation. One might as well declare a flat baked empty plain of desert as having greater purity than a well-run metropolitan city because it represents the original state of Gods creation. Islam lives a constant lie and kills anyone who has the audacity to point it out.

Independent intellectuals and experts in the Arab world should work to create these uncontrolled commissions as a first constructive step in any broad Arab action to improve transparency and accountability.

This last statement contains numerous oxymorons. Independent intellectuals are more frequently put to death than given any public prominence in Muslim lands. Were it remotely otherwise, by now Islam might have undergone even a minor degree of reformation. The functions of critical thinking and analytical reasoning are violently discouraged by a culture that consistently rewards rote memorization over free thought. Similarly, the idea of "uncontrolled commissions" is in direct opposition to the authoritarian nature of Islam's theocratic rule. It is likewise with any vestiges of Arab transparency and accountability. Such notions demand a level of intellectual integrity that high context societies like Muslim cultures simply cannot endure. The rampant corruption, graft, bribery and selective legal enforcement enjoyed by Islams privileged elite could not survive legitimate scrutiny.

That which taints Islam is not a superficial blot upon it but a stain that permeates through all levels. It is dyed-in-the-wool and inseparable from the warp and weft of Muslim culture. Islams clerical aristocracy would no sooner abandon these crippling ethical deficiencies than they would convert to Christianity.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-16 13:00|| 2007-07-16 13:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Guess where Khairi Abaza doesn't live.

Posted by ed 2007-07-16 13:03|| 2007-07-16 13:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Deception and death are built into the islamic religion and culture. Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie--Taqiyya.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-16 13:22|| 2007-07-16 13:22|| Front Page Top

#6 I find one aspect of the arab experience to be incredibly ironic:

Every statement (or nearly every one) is ended with "inshallah" -- may it be G-d's will.

And, the arab world remains ignorant and unproductive despite the riches bestowed on it -- a failure by most measures.

Inshallah, even terror attacks are thwarted.

Perhaps it really IS G-d's will that these people are losers!

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2007-07-16 14:26|| 2007-07-16 14:26|| Front Page Top

#7 PlanetDan hits closer than he realizes.

Islam tries to sell itself as the religion of WINNERS. Any thought that a godly man may suffer in any way is strictly forbidden. The Koran itself is full of re-writes of bible stories that amount to sanitation: Jesus never died on the Cross, Joseph was never unjustly imprisoned, Moses didn't smash the first set of the 10 commandments when he saw the Israelites dancing around the golden calf, and Abraham didn't "sacrifice" Isaac, but Ishmael. No account in the Koran has any "true" Muslim sinning, losing, or being defeated. As such, it is an infantile religion incapable of hardening its adherents tot he realities of life.

Victory in war is held up as being the proof of Islam. The one loss they suffered is whitewashed as due to poor strategic planning: do it right, and Allah will always give victory.

The 1967 war is more, in their eyes, than just a defeat of Arabs by Jews: it was a REFUTATION of Islam's veracity, using THEIR OWN MEASURE OF VERACITY. Thus, the spin, spin, spin to maintain the illusion that Islam has not been refuted by repeated military defeats.

Islam does not prepare its adherents to handle defeat, setbacks, or problems. In my opinion, Islamism is, partly, a coping mechanism to handle the disjunction between what the Koran tells the Muslim their place is in the world, and what reality tells the Muslim. "The defeats are due to the fact that you are not practicing a pure enough form of Islam." is the message, "return to the fundamentals of Islam and imitate Mohammed in word and deed, and you will have the same success as Mohammed had."

Islam is a religion that is incapable of

Posted by ptah">ptah 2007-07-16 15:42|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-07-16 15:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Thomas Friedman posits...

Islam has a long tradition of tolerating other religions, but only on the basis of the supremacy of Islam, not equality with Islam. Islam's self-identity is that it is the authentic and ideal expression of monotheism. Muslims are raised with the view that Islam is God 3.0, Christianity is God 2.0, Judaism is God 1.0, and Hinduism is God 0.0.

Part of what seems to be going on with these young Muslim males is that they are, on the one hand, tempted by Western society, and ashamed of being tempted. On the other hand, they are humiliated by Western society because while Sunni Islamic civilization is supposed to be superior, its decision to ban the reform and reinterpretation of Islam since the 12th century has choked the spirit of innovation out of Muslim lands, and left the Islamic world less powerful, less economically developed, less technically advanced than God 2.0, 1.0 and 0.0.

Posted by John Frum 2007-07-16 15:54|| 2007-07-16 15:54|| Front Page Top

#9 All the points above prove to me that Islam is completely incompatible with modern societies and is doing its best to destroy them so it doesn't have to compete (and get beat). Islam needs a reformation or it will be destroyed.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-07-16 18:17|| 2007-07-16 18:17|| Front Page Top

#10 There is a Lasarus Long's sayin that IMHO, mutatis mutandis,fits the current situation.
"I don't understand gangster mindset---I just know what to do about gangsters."

Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-16 21:11|| 2007-07-16 21:11|| Front Page Top

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