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2005-07-21 China-Japan-Koreas
China's new destroyers feature Aegis tech copied from U.S.
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Posted by Yosemite Sam 2005-07-21 13:51|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 reason #1 why China should never be allowed to own assets in our country
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-07-21 14:38||   2005-07-21 14:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Terrible, terrible. Yellow peril battle fleet ready to do the mizzen mast thing. Granted that the SnapDragoon class is nothing to sneeze at but let's be real, what are the odds of it lasting more than 2 weeks at sea?

Evorks! Away! Evorks! Away! BANG!
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-21 14:54||   2005-07-21 14:54|| Front Page Top

#3 But how well does it work compared to ours? Cheap knock off? Most likely.

But Sam is right, we are our own worst enemy.
Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-21 14:55||   2005-07-21 14:55|| Front Page Top

#4 klap
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-21 14:57||   2005-07-21 14:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Aegis is essentially a software system. Get hold of the code, figure our what it does and how it works, then write your own. Sounds like what the Chinese are good at. OTOH the USA will know the best way to penetrate an Aegis type system.
Posted by phil_b 2005-07-21 15:06||   2005-07-21 15:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Is one of their ships called the 'Bill Clinton'?

He was great for allowing tech to fall into their hands in exchange for campaign contributions.
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-07-21 15:50||   2005-07-21 15:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Is one of their ships called the 'Bill Clinton'?

Well, their names are really similar to "low wang"...
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-21 16:14|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-21 16:14|| Front Page Top

#8 U.S. intelligence officials say China stole the technology for the Aegis battle management system by setting up a front company in the United States that became a subcontractor for the Aegis system manufacturer.

Don't government subcontractors -- especially defense subcontractors -- get investigated thoroughly due to the amount of technology being employed? Seems to me that such a procedure would be a necessary task, and if it already is, whoever failed to do it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-07-21 16:22||   2005-07-21 16:22|| Front Page Top

#9 The Chinese can't even make a decent AK-47 knockoff, so I'll hold off on cashing in my 401k for a few more hours.

BTW Aegis is more than a software program. It's the SPY-1 radar, the Command and Decision System using the UYK-43/44 computers, and the Weapons control system.

Also, before we go hunting for rogue U.S. companies, remember that Aegis technology is onboard Japanese Kongo-class destoyers and Spanish F-100 frigates and was initially developed in the early 1970s.
Posted by Dreadnought 2005-07-21 16:31||   2005-07-21 16:31|| Front Page Top

#10 Don't government subcontractors -- especially defense subcontractors -- get investigated thoroughly due to the amount of technology being employed?

Not if they contributed to Clinton's reelection campaign.
Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2005-07-21 16:33|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2005-07-21 16:33|| Front Page Top

#11 4 bucks says its not anything LIKE an AEGIS defense system, some reporter probably saw the distinctive forecastle shape that looks similar to our Arleigh Burke class destroyers (or even the phased array radar system) and instantly thought "Oooh look its AEGIS in Chinese hands!".
Posted by Valentine 2005-07-21 17:18||   2005-07-21 17:18|| Front Page Top

#12 I wouldn't book a seat on any airliner scheduled to fly within 600NM of their sea trials. It ain't the software that makes the difference; it's the dude sitting at the console.
Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-21 17:39||   2005-07-21 17:39|| Front Page Top

#13 When the Chinese launch their "OOTB" (Out Of The Blue [blitzkrieg])warplan against Taiwan, the US will do absolutely nothing but recoil in shock and move to shore Japan up! We just can't get the 'nightmare' senario of LA & Walmart going south!!!
Posted by smn 2005-07-21 20:34||   2005-07-21 20:34|| Front Page Top

#14 This could be another example of the The Farewell dossier.
Posted by Joey">Joey  2005-07-21 21:32|| http://www.cabalofdoom.com]">[http://www.cabalofdoom.com]  2005-07-21 21:32|| Front Page Top

#15 Good post, Joey - that was worthy of George Smiley, lol! Thx!
Posted by .com 2005-07-21 21:41||   2005-07-21 21:41|| Front Page Top

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