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2004-07-20 Europe
Honoring those who stood up against pure evil
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Posted by True German Ally 2004-07-20 2:03:34 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 TGA--I'm glad you posted this. I was thinking a few days earlier that the 60th anniversary was coming up, but it slipped my mind until I saw your post.
Posted by Dar  2004-07-20 3:24:13 PM||   2004-07-20 3:24:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 well said tga
Posted by Dan 2004-07-20 3:24:49 PM||   2004-07-20 3:24:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Thanks, TGA.

Maybe our pointed barbs about hyper-pacifism are making it through. Is it too much to hope that Europe is awakening, and realizing how suicidal and extreme the policy of "war is never justified" is?
Posted by jules 187 2004-07-20 4:05:53 PM||   2004-07-20 4:05:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 They stood up against nothing. The fact is that most of the July 20 conjurees wanted was closer tp "nazism light" than anything else. The plan was to make a separate peace with the Allies so to be able to put all German's forces in the eastern front. And they wanted to keep most of the spoils: an Alsace/Lorraine here, an Austria there, the Sudetes of course and so on. Most of the conjurees were, at best, from the imperialist Prussian school (the same one who used Belgian civilans as human shields during WWI). They didn't long for freedom, they didn't long for democracy, they weren't revolted by the atrocities in the eastern front, the murder of the mentally deficient or the final solution. They opposed Nazism only because they thought deposing Hitler would prevent Germany from being crushed.

Stauffenberg was nearly alone to oppose Nazism for moral reasons.
Posted by JFM  2004-07-20 4:50:16 PM||   2004-07-20 4:50:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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