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2004-08-04 Southeast Asia

Malaysia's wacko leader : Christians are waging a "war against Islam,"

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-08-04 2:20:47 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Many Muslims the world over feel that the war against terror is a war against Islam, and no amount of reassurance from the West that it is not will convince them otherwise."
We Westerners have not believed our leaders either.

"We cannot allow our religions to be torn apart by extremist impulses," he said.
I think the worry is about the extremists in one particular religion, bucko.

Posted by rex 2004-08-04 2:28:54 AM|| 2004-08-04 2:28:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I think the guy needs eyeglasses! US war-planes were dropping roses on Afghan and Iraqi children.
Bush was speaking the truth when said that this is a crusader war and I do not see what is shameful about it.

Posted by Chris 2004-08-04 2:43:14 AM|| 2004-08-04 2:43:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 What other 'religion' mandates it's followers smash planes into very tall buildings, in the name of jihad, or board city buses and self detonate slaughtering passengers, again in the name of jihad, or drive a car loaded with explosives directly into a church services, that's jihad demonstrated to the entire world?

Some would term this madness a cult of death driven fanatics. They would be more than correct.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-08-04 2:48:21 AM|| 2004-08-04 2:48:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The honourable, tearful PM almost had me in tears as well when I read his appeal for unity between Christians and Muslims.

Apparently there are about 1,2 billion Muslims burdening our planet. (That is, one-fifth of the entire population). Out of the whole bunch, I think I've heard about a dozen speak out against the terror committed in their name. But let's be generous and put the total at about 100 who have in fact spoken out.

That leaves 1 199 999 900 Muslims who are:
*Terrorists
*Supporters of terror
*Indifferent to terror
*Unaware of terror
*Against terror, but too scared to speak up.

The PM should be crying.

Posted by Bryan 2004-08-04 3:20:45 AM|| 2004-08-04 3:20:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Meet the new Boss,
Same as the old Boss.

Posted by .com 2004-08-04 3:48:21 AM|| 2004-08-04 3:48:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 world council of churches should feel right at home in a totalitarian environment...They're commie revisionist theologian apologists from way back, and haven't changed a bit.

Yeah....all you Christian terrorist groups should quit blowing up buildings and buses full of kids and shit.

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-08-04 4:47:11 AM|| 2004-08-04 4:47:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 On the one hand you have a group of people who, in the name of their God, have done all kinds of good for people around the world. Producing an economic system able to sustain their citizens. A group of people who will share their Lord and Savior with you, as they feed you and your starving neighbors, never force feeding it to anyone.

On the other hand you have a group of people who, in the name of their god, have done all kinds of evil things to people around the world. People who preach nothing but pure hate. People who have produced nothing but chaos for 1000 years. People who will force you to convert to their religion(islam), or die.

By the way......Here in Texas the word islam translates to mean: That little bit of white stuff on the top of chickenshit. The thing about that little bit of white stuff is......it's chickenshit too.

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-08-04 5:20:02 AM|| 2004-08-04 5:20:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 "Some would term this madness a cult of death driven fanatics. They would be more than correct."

That would be me.

Islam will become a religion, and not just a death cult, when "submission to the will of God" no longer means "submission to the will of man."

Christianity made that transition centuries ago. Islam needs to follow suit. And they need to do it VERY quickly.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-04 6:07:15 AM|| 2004-08-04 6:07:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "On the one hand you have a group of people who, in the name of their God, have done all kinds of good for people around the world."

Yeah, it was all kinds of good when the female mathematician Hypatia was torn from her chariot, stripped naked, dragged to the church and subsequently her flesh was scrapped from her bones with oyster-shells and her "quivering limbs delivered to the flames".

Right?

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-08-04 9:37:16 AM|| 2004-08-04 9:37:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Awww shit.

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-04 9:41:46 AM|| 2004-08-04 9:41:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 "We cannot stand before a compassionate God while there is so much we have left undone because we are disunited," he said, wiping away tears as his voice began to crack.

"*sniff* Please... why won't you die or convert?"

Posted by BH 2004-08-04 12:09:33 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:09:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I've been gone a week plus on vacation. Is Chris the new NMM troll?

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-04 12:25:35 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:25:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Aris, take a break from the kool-aid and read #8.

Posted by jojo the idiot circus boy 2004-08-04 12:43:55 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:43:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 #4 That leaves 1 199 999 900 Muslims who are: . . .

You are forgetting "Harassing BLT sandwich-eating Christian employess of companies they own. . ."

Fired for a BLT

Posted by BigEd 2004-08-04 12:46:43 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:46:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Ed - Great find...

"The CEO of Rising Star, Kujaatele Kweli, told Local 6 News that they have tried to create an office that accommodates anybody's religion -- not just Islam.

"Clearly you're accommodating," Holfeld said.
"Yes." Kweli replied.

"And you have an ecumenical philosophy," Holfeld said.
" Yes," Kweli replied.

"(Then) shouldn't you be able to accommodate all faiths in the same lunch room?" Holfeld asked.
"We do, we can," Kweli said.

"But you've dismissed one of your employees for eating pork in the lunch room," Holfeld said.
"Yes, pork is considered unclean," Kweli said.

The Koran forbids Muslims from eating pork. And according to Kweli, Morales and every employee at the company is advised of the no pork policy.

"Our point of view is to respect the laws of the land and the laws of the land as I understand it is to the accommodate people's right to practice their religions if you can," Kweli said.

"Even if it impacts other people?" Holfeld asked.
"Well, it always impacts other people," Kweli replied.

This exchange is a trip. It seems to have made sense to Kweli and it seems to have made his point. Somehow. Maybe. Kinda. Wotta classic Moolim 'tard.

Posted by .com 2004-08-04 12:56:15 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:56:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Aris
I'll see you on Hypatia, and raise you Marcantonio Brigadino
"Bragadino arranged for peaceful terms of surrender, but the Turks - enraged by the losses they had suffered while taking the city - started torturing and killing Bragadino's soldiers. When Bragadino objected, Mustafa ordered that his ears and nose be cut off and that he be skinned alive. The skin was stuffed with straw and mounted on a wagon, and legend has it that Bragadino lived long enough to behold his own gruesome double paraded through the streets."

Posted by tipper 2004-08-04 12:56:43 PM|| 2004-08-04 12:56:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Funny Mr G. Chris has been doing a lousy job of it though.

Chris, we drop bombs on children in the name of the lord. Killing children is 21st century man. Stripping Hypatia was only the beginning. Wait till we get a hold of the peaceful jihadie children from around the world. Think of Disney's "It's a small world" ride. Do that ride while you nap BTW.

Posted by Lucky 2004-08-04 1:01:38 PM|| 2004-08-04 1:01:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Tipper, that's true ofcourse but I never claimed that the Turks (or Muslims in general) were "a group of people who, in the name of their God, have done all kinds of good for people around the world" the way Halfass Pete claimed for Christians.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-08-04 1:05:05 PM|| 2004-08-04 1:05:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 "Abdullah stressed that terrorists who claim to act in the name of Islam represent a "misguided" minority, who are frustrated over how Western powers tackle Muslim grievances such as the Palestinian struggle."

No, as it turns out the moderate muslims are actually the misguided majority as Jihad and the killing of all who do not believe is a fundamental pillar of true Islam.

I have attached a Link to an Islamic timeline.

An interesting date to note:

AD 624
"Muhammad broke with his Jewish supporters because they refused to recognize him as a prophet and adopt Isalm. He chose now to emphasize the Arabness of the new religion and has his followers face Mecca when praying instead of Jerusalem.

In the end, all the Jews were either banished or executed."

Posted by jojo the idiot circus boy 2004-08-04 1:54:15 PM|| 2004-08-04 1:54:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Where oh where to begin?

Abdullah said there was "less trust and goodwill between Islam and Christianity than there was a few years ago". "The current global scenario has unfortunately burnt bigotry into the collective conscience of our respective communities," Abdullah said.

"The current global scenario" has burnt in a distinct and valid mistrust of all Islamic extremists and those who do not vociferously denounce them, especially those from among the extremist's own faith. Bigotry has nothing to do with it. Maggots flying laden passenger planes into skyscrapers and committing other heinous artocities most certainly does.

"Many Muslims the world over feel that the war against terror is a war against Islam, and no amount of reassurance from the West that it is not will convince them otherwise."

"Many Muslims" also seem to have a really difficult time thinning their ranks of extremists and supporters of terrorism. That is what's driving the perception that the war on terror is becoming a war on Islam. Islam's inaction is causing an equal and opposite reaction from those populations who are being murdered by Islamists.

Abdullah stressed that terrorists who claim to act in the name of Islam represent a "misguided" minority, who are frustrated over how Western powers tackle Muslim grievances such as the Palestinian struggle.

Big newsflash, that "misguided minority" and any of their frustrations are going to destroy Islam from within. These fanatics had better be explicitly identified to corresponding national security organs by Muslims dwelling within those countries or Islam will be dismantled as a terrorist organization. No options.

Religions should not be allowed to be torn apart by extremists, he said. "If we fail to do so, we risk having our religion hijacked by those who promote hatred and violence. We risk ceding ground to those who do not see the need to live in peace with other religions," he said.

The ball is squarely in Islam's court. Pretending that there is no rhinoceros in the living room just isn't working for those not blinded by Islam's dogma.

"We cannot allow our religions to be torn apart by extremist impulses," he said.

THEN DON'T ALLOW IT! Instead, a wink and a nod with a frequent smirk thrown in is all that's being shown the terrorists. Keep it up and Islam will be an odd historical footnote and nothing else.

Posted by Zenster 2004-08-04 8:03:41 PM|| 2004-08-04 8:03:41 PM|| Front Page Top

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