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2005-08-05 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian mini-submarine trapped on sea floor
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Posted by Ebbomoque Thomose4862 2005-08-05 06:22|| || Front Page|| [11137 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 you couldn't put me on one of their ships much less a sub.
Posted by Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-08-05 08:27||   2005-08-05 08:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Fred,

Why does my name keep coming up as one of these random ones even though I change it when posting??
Posted by DanNY 2005-08-05 08:41||   2005-08-05 08:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Another morning, another Russian naval disaster. Jeez, I hope they can the poor guys out.

If the US Navy is sending a rescue sub (unmanned, the article says), I'm guessing that it has the right hatch/connectors to attach to the Russian mini-sub? Or might it attach a cable so a surface ship could pull it up?
Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats  2005-08-05 09:05|| http://www.punictreachery.com/]">[http://www.punictreachery.com/]  2005-08-05 09:05|| Front Page Top

#4 2 subs and 1 ship in about a month and a half? My, oh my, are they having a string of bad luck or what? This, on top of the few accidents w/ the Chinese Navy lately gives me hope that we may very well see communism finally die on the vine.
Posted by BA 2005-08-05 09:13||   2005-08-05 09:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Reports are the minisub has it's prop fouled by a fishing net. The ROV has a cable cutter on one of it's arms that could be used to free it. Fox is reporting they only have 24 hours of air left.
Posted by Steve">Steve  2005-08-05 09:51||   2005-08-05 09:51|| Front Page Top

#6 communism is dead except in North Korea and Cuba. It's just authoritarianism and one party rule that survive and will probably never die. Look at France. Five republics later they still don't really have the democratic liberalism thing down.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-08-05 09:59||   2005-08-05 09:59|| Front Page Top

#7 The idea of russia maintaining a sub fleet would be like me owning a Hatteras Yacht. Sure I would look like Mr. Cool Guy motoring along in it, but I couldn't afford to put fuel in it when it ran out or maintain it in any fit fashion. Why don't they stick to shit they can afford, like surface ships, small surface ships.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-08-05 10:15||   2005-08-05 10:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Dan NY: make sure you have cookies enabled on your browser.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2005-08-05 10:51||   2005-08-05 10:51|| Front Page Top

#9 In the ongoing War Between Submarines and Fishing Vessels, horsepower remains the key to victory.
Posted by Zpaz 2005-08-05 11:17||   2005-08-05 11:17|| Front Page Top

#10 LotR:
Probably not. While we published the specs and blueprints for our escape hatches and hinted it would be helpful to be compatible, the USSR and a few others refused to go along with the Capitalist Plot.
Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2005-08-05 11:24|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2005-08-05 11:24|| Front Page Top

#11 I think they should call their new butt-buddies, the ChiComs for help. Puttyputz has made it clear he doesn't need or want cooperation with the US. So be it. This is a fitting metaphor for the opportunities squandered since Yeltsin stood atop the tank.
Posted by .com 2005-08-05 11:32||   2005-08-05 11:32|| Front Page Top

#12 I see we're still the Designated Driver for the planet...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-08-05 11:51||   2005-08-05 11:51|| Front Page Top

#13 I see we're still the Designated Driver for the planet...

Gotdamnit! I was wanting to drink mass quantities this weekend too!
Posted by mmurray821 2005-08-05 11:56||   2005-08-05 11:56|| Front Page Top

#14 What is the problem? A sub is supposed to go under the surface and this one certainly complies with specs
Posted by JFM">JFM  2005-08-05 12:10||   2005-08-05 12:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Update: Russians attempt deep-sea rescue

A rescue vessel has managed to attach a tow cable to the stricken diving vessel trapped on the sea bed in the Russian Far East, officials say.
Posted by DanNY 2005-08-05 14:19||   2005-08-05 14:19|| Front Page Top

#16 I told 'em yesterday that they need wheels on their subs...
Posted by Spot">Spot  2005-08-05 14:20||   2005-08-05 14:20|| Front Page Top

#17 I sure hope the crew is rescued, but shouldn't Russia have called the UN first?
Posted by Matt 2005-08-05 15:10||   2005-08-05 15:10|| Front Page Top

#18 One of the US counterparts is roumoured to have wheels SPOT, similar to Fultons Nautilus.
Posted by Shipman 2005-08-05 16:52||   2005-08-05 16:52|| Front Page Top

#19 I see we're still the Designated Driver for the planet...

Since we are talking subs, shouldn't that be Designated Diver?
Posted by SteveS 2005-08-05 16:57||   2005-08-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#20 It's not a rumor. The NR-1 has wheels with plain old tires on them. (See the next to last paragraph in the link.) My old boss is a semi-legend in the submarine force for accidently driving the NR-1 off the continental shelf.
Posted by Zpaz 2005-08-05 20:30||   2005-08-05 20:30|| Front Page Top

#21 My understanding is the sub did not foul its prop on a fishing net but on some kind of antenna and anchor line. Was it perhaps servicing an underwater submarine communication system?
Given how close the location is to Kamchatka and some major Russian naval institutions I wonder if we might not have a 'quiet' boat very nearby. But alas, not likely equipped to rescue the Russians.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2005-08-05 21:39||   2005-08-05 21:39|| Front Page Top

#22 Heh,

Prolly got caught up while investigating one of our cable taps...
Posted by DanNY 2005-08-05 22:59||   2005-08-05 22:59|| Front Page Top

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