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2005-08-16 Caribbean-Latin America

Number of Mexican expats more than 20 mln

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Posted by Ebbolutch Thavick3284 2005-08-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 You know, given that Europe seems to be trying to encourage immigration, I find myself wondering if they wouldn't be better off trying to recruit Mexicans to come. They speak (for the most part) a European language, most of them aren't religious extremists... Most of the ones who have come to the US legally to settle down have been OK.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-08-16 00:57|| 2005-08-16 00:57|| Front Page Top

#2 They would, PF, except that it is a cultural thing. The vast majority of the Mexicans who come north illegaly are poorly educated and very distrustful of government in general. It is much easier to enter the U.S. under those conditions than to travel overseas. Your point that most of them who have come to the US are Ok is true. If we ignore the basic illegality of their method of entry, we will probably find that they are as law abiding as any of our other immigrant groups.

That is why I think that some means of permitting them legal and easy entry to the United States for work is the best way to deal with the issue. I do not know if President Bush's plans are the best method, but he is at least trying to deal with the issue in a forthright manner.

In the long term I think that allowing Mexicans to enter the country, make a living and raise families will be as healthy for the U.S. as it has been with every other large immigrant group such as the Irish, Italians, Germans, Chinese that preceeded them.

It will also be good for Mexico in the long term as the influence of the expats who return, having been exposed to our way of life, will demand better and more responsible government south of the border.

Posted by DanNY 2005-08-16 06:21|| 2005-08-16 06:21|| Front Page Top

#3 OK, we have enough landscapers and fruit pickers, start turning them back. Once they get here all we hear about is how poor they are. So they can be poor in Mexico, or they can be poor here, only difference is they don't run entire hospitals broke in mexico.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-08-16 08:21|| 2005-08-16 08:21|| Front Page Top

#4 That is why I think that some means of permitting them legal and easy entry to the United States for work is the best way to deal with the issue.

No, it is the best way is for the Mexican government to really reform itself so as to have a viable economy. There are millions of Chinese, let alone even more millions of other nationalities who would like to come to America. Why should they be denied simply because their country lacks a physical border with the US? A little racism going on here?

As long as the Mexican government can dump literally millions of its poor and underclass on the US, the longer it can avoid reform and the ruling class can retain their power. Any other ruling elite in the world would be concerned about chaos and revolution in similar situation, but do not have the luxury of a stupid neighbor who puts up with infinite toxic waste dumping on their own property.

Take your heart and sympathy to the Americans who are robbed of medical and education support that's eaten up by an unending stream of illegals. Legals welcomed with open arms. Illegals are just that - ILLEGAL.

How many Americans have been killed or murdered, robbed or raped by illegals? Kill 3,000 Americans in one morning and you're a terrorist. Kill 3,000 in 10 years and you're just poor misunderstood undocumented workers.

Posted by Jirt Omager7355 2005-08-16 08:36|| 2005-08-16 08:36|| Front Page Top

#5 The three of y'all weren't reading for comprehension. I specifically meant those who had entered the country legally.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-08-16 08:49|| 2005-08-16 08:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Look soon for the word "expatriate" to be used in place of "illegal immigrant".

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-16 10:36|| 2005-08-16 10:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Right. And with one swish of a pen, 10 million illegals become legal overnight. But they're soooo LEGAL now. And still no mechanism to stop the Mexican government program of dumping rather than reforming. What problem have you really solved or just put off again for another day?

Posted by Jirt Omager7355 2005-08-16 11:07|| 2005-08-16 11:07|| Front Page Top

#8 I do not know if President Bush's plans are the best method, but he is at least trying to deal with the issue in a forthright manner.
Refering to Illegal Aliens as Guest Workers is proof positive The President isn't dealing with the immigration issue in a forthright manner. Refering to Amnesty as Reform is classic double-speak. In fact, very few of our elected officials have shown the political will to address this issue head on. The article says there are 20.64 million "expatriates" in the US. The legal immigrants are allowed to retain dual-citizenship. Even the Illeagal portion retains voting credentials. This crisis is more then just Border Security.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-08-16 11:39|| 2005-08-16 11:39|| Front Page Top

#9 Build the Friendship Wall. It's like trying to reepair a dam while the flood pours through. Shut off the flow, repair the dam, then discuss what's in AMERICA'S interests, not Mexico.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-16 12:22|| 2005-08-16 12:22|| Front Page Top

#10 1. Stop the flow of illegals into the country by securing the borders.
2. Enforce the existing laws about hiring illegals. Hit the employers in their pocketbooks.
3. Deny free healthcare for illegals.
4. Make it easy to go back to their own ~~hellhole~~ homeland.
5. Start sorting out the illegals in the country and deport them.
6. Set up a guest worker program as required with the necessary controls.
0. Fire all the top management of INS and replace with can-do types that can take on a problem, work it, and solve it.
Steps 1 through 4 will stem the flow and take the financial incentives out of enabling illegals.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-08-16 23:05|| 2005-08-16 23:05|| Front Page Top

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