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2006-08-18 China-Japan-Koreas

ChiCom Ambassador Tells U.S. to "Shut Up"

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Posted by Captain America 2006-08-18 12:22|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Bu how

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-08-18 12:36|| 2006-08-18 12:36|| Front Page Top

#2 The feelings mutual about our missile defense system and "anything else" we put on Taiwan.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-08-18 13:00|| 2006-08-18 13:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Every purchase we make from China enables them.

Posted by ed 2006-08-18 13:02|| 2006-08-18 13:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Agree Ed.

A few years ago we had a Communist Regime empowered by rigid state run controls and strict socialism. Now we have a Communist Regime (although we no longer call it that), empowered and funded via capitalism. Don't think we've gained much.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-18 13:25|| 2006-08-18 13:25|| Front Page Top

#5 Admitting them to WTO will prove to be one of the worst mistakes of commission from the Clinton years.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-18 13:31|| 2006-08-18 13:31|| Front Page Top

#6 When I shop, I look at country of origin and avoid buying from unfriendly nations. I am even to the point where I no longer fly if at all possible and consolidate car trips.

Unfortunately it is getting more difficult to avoid buying Chinese. Unknown to me, even my new mail ordered Japanese laptop was made in China (probably only the CPU and other ICs, maybe the LCD screen, were not made in China).

Posted by ed 2006-08-18 13:46|| 2006-08-18 13:46|| Front Page Top

#7 I enjoy watching Ratzenberger.

http://www.tv.com/john-ratzenbergers-made-in-america/show/25381/summary.html

"Hi, I'm John Ratzenberger. If you want to know America, you've got to meet the folks who work in factories and workshops. People who make real things and take pride in what they do. And then, you have to go in there with them to see how it's done. So, that's what I did. I poked around every corner of this country -- big cities, small towns, and whatever was in between -- looking for the soul of America. And you know what? I found it everywhere. So sit back and relax, because we've got it... Full Summary »

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-18 13:54|| 2006-08-18 13:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Ed, it was assembled in China. The high value added components, as you note, were probably made elsewhere, including Taiwan, South Korea and Malaysia based on designs created by Indians working in Silicon Valley. China didn't make the computer any more than the guy stocking the shelves at Safeway made your food.

Buying Chinese means you are allowing the Chinese people to subsidize your purchase through their policy of keeping the yuan artificially low.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-18 13:56|| 2006-08-18 13:56|| Front Page Top

#9 It you took all the Chinese made merchandise out of a Target store all you'd be left with is candy, motor oil, and pet food.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-18 13:59|| 2006-08-18 13:59|| Front Page Top

#10 And the only reason few ICs are made in China is that the US gov refuses to allow exports to China of chip making equipment that is within several generations of the leading edge.

Posted by ed 2006-08-18 14:29|| 2006-08-18 14:29|| Front Page Top

#11 The United States should "shut up" with its concerns about China's growing military spending because the increase is no threat, a Chinese ambassador said Thursday.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

Every purchase we make from China enables them.

Word, ed. Now if only we could convince our politicians of this. Remember, Bush's "Pioneers" (the ones who contribute $100,000 or more to his campaign) include major corporate players with significant interests in China. Where do you think Wal-Mart, The Good Guys and Circuit City get their cheap consumer electronics assembled? Out of our ~$127 BILLION trade defecit with China, Wal-Mart alone accounts for $12.7 BILLION (2005 figures). That's a solid 10% of the entire trade defecit due to a single corporation.

Now, considering that so much re-election capital comes from these players, what's the chance of obtaining even the most remote form of trade embargo against China?

[crickets]

And the only reason few ICs are made in China is that the US gov refuses to allow exports to China of chip making equipment that is within several generations of the leading edge.

I wish this were true. China is already at 8" (750mm) wafer fab capability. That is only one generation away from the current 12" (1,000mm) state-of-the-art. True, x-ray and scanning electron beam lithography are probably denied to them (I can only wonder if Europe fills this technology gap for the Chinese), by us but 8" wafer fabs are a much more mature technology base and therefore deliver higher yields with greater reliability.

China badly needs to be hauled up short. Their looming AIDS crisis (the largest medically caused AIDS epidemic in all history), combined with massive bad bank loans (some estimates exceed ONE TRILLION $USD) and potential constrictions in vital raw resources (Iran's petroleum supply being taken off line), all point to the potential for a gigantic crash in China's near term.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-18 15:30|| 2006-08-18 15:30|| Front Page Top

#12 We can shut up. We'll just smile and wave as we sell lots of military toys to Tiawan and Japan.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-08-18 16:22|| 2006-08-18 16:22|| Front Page Top

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