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2006-08-18 India-Pakistan
AN AMERICAN IN PAKISTAN: Value of dissent
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Posted by john 2006-08-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Words fail.

Good inline tho...
Posted by N guard 2006-08-18 00:30||   2006-08-18 00:30|| Front Page Top

#2 What summarized the whole thing for me was - I hope that when I wear out this Cat Stevens album.

The woman has no idea how a CD works and probably has no clue how pretty much everything else in the world works either. Left to her own devices she would be dead in a week.
Posted by phil_b 2006-08-18 00:34||   2006-08-18 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 She needs a good D-9 wake up call.
While we're waiting for that, perhaps she should be told that Cat Stevens really good songs are on the 'B' side of that CD....
Oh yeah, she's ugly too. reminds me of that thing that got shot in Maine earlier this week.
Posted by USN,Ret 2006-08-18 00:44||   2006-08-18 00:44|| Front Page Top

#4 AN AMERICAN IN PAKISTAN: Value of dissent

Come now my brothers and sisters, Climb Aboard the Mu Tea Peace Train and Peace Out. Everyone remember to Resist the Draft and have the Courage to Recycle.

Posted by Wavy Gravy">Wavy Gravy  2006-08-18 02:11||   2006-08-18 02:11|| Front Page Top

#5 I am an American child of the 1960s.

We can tell. Must have got your hands on a bad hit and it never wore off.
Posted by gorb 2006-08-18 03:42||   2006-08-18 03:42|| Front Page Top

#6 "...shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-08-18 05:23|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-08-18 05:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Is this the same Cat Stevens who changed his name to Jusef Islam and advocated for the murder of Salman Rushdie?

The levels of ignorance and irony here will require new instrumentation to measure.
Posted by no mo uro 2006-08-18 05:45||   2006-08-18 05:45|| Front Page Top

#8 People like this will make me a believer in Eugenics.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-08-18 06:37||   2006-08-18 06:37|| Front Page Top

#9  Fallacious logic alert! Mawk level is 11.08. Cause-effect conflict! Tear duct overflow!

Glorious!
Posted by Mike 2006-08-18 06:55||   2006-08-18 06:55|| Front Page Top

#10 This gets even more pathetic - a letter to the NZ Herald

Love & Culture In Pakistan

The ice cream man pedals his cart along the street. His calliope is playing "It's A Small World After All." I can see the blue umbrella of his cart above the security fence.

My room is on the ground floor, in the corner of the hotel near the security guard hut. There are two security guards on duty all the time, day and night. There are also two in the back of the hotel. They wear automatic rifles over their shoulders.

A man singing Islamic prayers is being broadcast over the loud speaker. This is the modern world here in Pakistan. Instead of the call to prayers from the turret of a mosque, loud speakers are installed on every corner like public phone booths in the states. Prayers are offered five times a day. I have a prayer rug in my hotel room, and an arrow on the desk showing me the compass direction toward Mecca.

I have come here by a long strange road. I met Junaid, a Pakistani man, on line before September 11. He is talking about marriage, so I need to get to know him better before I bring him into the US on a fiancé visa. He was refused a visitor visa to the US, so I have come here.

I have already lived through Ramadan, and Eid. I know a lot about his culture, for sure! But now I need to get to know the man. Instant Messenger works well for awhile, but we got to know each other so well that we were arguing all the time.

We are still arguing. I have the entire staff of the hotel helping me out with this. My phone calls to Junaid have to go through the front desk. When he comes to the hotel, the receptionist calls my room and announces, "Mr. Junaid is here." I have to give my permission before he is sent down the hall. Every day, when I need to talk to someone, I tell the front desk what Junaid and I are arguing about. They give me good advice.

There is a general rule about the relationship between men and women here. The man is supposed to tell the woman what to do. The woman is supposed to say that she is trying very hard to do what he says, but she is always making mistakes.

There is real equality between the sexes here. Equality, with a sense of humor.

This is not a vacation atmosphere. It is very dangerous for a US citizen to be in Pakistan. This hotel has guests who work at the U.S. Consulate, so safety is a high priority. The hotel has special drivers to take people to their destination, stay with them, and then bring them back to the hotel.

Junaid is worried constantly about my safety. I feel bad about this, because it means that there are a lot of things we can’t do together. But we have no other choice. Because he is from Pakistan, he can get visitor visas only to other Islamic countries. Security for me would be worse in Yemen or Iran.

Ramadan was quite a test. I came here on purpose for that. I wanted a heavy dose of the Muslim tradition, and I certainly got it! It is a federal crime to eat or drink in public during daylight hours in Pakistan during Ramadan. Whenever I had a bottle of water, I had to drink it by myself behind a closed door.

Ramadan was a test for Junaid, too. I didn’t tell him I was coming. I wanted to surprise him, to see if he was true blue.

Pakistani men don’t like surprises. I called him from the hotel when I got in. He had already figured out that I was in Pakistan, because it takes two days to get here and I hadn’t been on line. He came right over to the hotel, bringing a bouquet of roses. I will never forget my first sight of him, walking towards me down the hotel hallway, carrying so many roses that I was never able to count them all.

He passed the test.

The author, Cathy Mayo, lives in the Battles Schoolhouse out on Battles Brook Road. A writer and photographer, she is 55 years old, graduated with a BS in forestry, and has three children and three grandchildren. She has lived in Vermont most of her life.
Posted by john 2006-08-18 07:52||   2006-08-18 07:52|| Front Page Top

#11 There is a general rule about the relationship between men and women here. The man is supposed to tell the woman what to do. The woman is supposed to say that she is trying very hard to do what he says, but she is always making mistakes.

There is real equality between the sexes here.

Pakistani men don’t like surprises.

I met Junaid, a Pakistani man, on line before September 11. He is talking about marriage, so I need to get to know him better before I bring him into the US on a fiancé visa. He was refused a visitor visa to the US, so I have come here.


Some people actually deserve their fate.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-18 08:33||   2006-08-18 08:33|| Front Page Top

#12 Lovable fuzzy wuzzies.
Posted by SR-71 2006-08-18 08:49||   2006-08-18 08:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Obviously a submissive who likes to be dominated.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-08-18 08:51||   2006-08-18 08:51|| Front Page Top

#14 Is this the same Cat Stevens who changed his name to Jusef Islam and advocated for the murder of Salman Rushdie?

Yes. And he's the same Cat Stevens/Jusef Islam who is not allowed in the US because of his continued flow of funds to terror-supporting Islamic groups.
Posted by lotp 2006-08-18 09:19||   2006-08-18 09:19|| Front Page Top

#15 Hey, the guy said not to eat the brown acid, okay...but some people just don't listen!
This bitch better do some time. Serious time.
Posted by tu3031 2006-08-18 09:24||   2006-08-18 09:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Are we sure that wasn't Jeff Goldstein's psycho stalker Deb Frisch? They sound like they could be very closely related...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-08-18 09:26||   2006-08-18 09:26|| Front Page Top

#17 A haiku:

Inbound from Paki
Drop Trow
Yellow stream
Plastic cuffs
I am so
Fucked up
Posted by Catherine Mayo 2006-08-18 09:29||   2006-08-18 09:29|| Front Page Top

#18 Ya know what? Mayo strikes me as the perfect mule for a bomb plot.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-08-18 10:16|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-08-18 10:16|| Front Page Top

#19 I take it that Junaid wasn't on the plane with her. He's clearly smarter than she is.
Posted by Darrell 2006-08-18 10:35||   2006-08-18 10:35|| Front Page Top

#20 I hope the Immigration Officer in charge of this case takes his or her own sweet time handling this fiance visa.

I wonder how romantic Junaid is going to be to the adventurous Catherine should it be turned down....probably no more roses. Bummer.
Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-08-18 10:55|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]  2006-08-18 10:55|| Front Page Top

#21 "Is there any of that hash left?"

No. There is none left.

"There is real equality between the sexes here. Equality, with a sense of humor."

Yeah, it'll be real frickin' funny when you disagree with him and he gives you the back of his hand. If you make it back to the US with the hubby in tow, I'm sure I'll see ya in domestic violence court (if you're lucky).

Nobody said the obvious; Perhaps her visit didn't go so well.... (I'm so mean.)
Posted by Mark E. 2006-08-18 11:33||   2006-08-18 11:33|| Front Page Top

#22 man, I feel for her kids & grandkids. Thanksgiving dinner must be a real event for the Mayo clan.

Oh, and I almost forgot, fuck cat stevens.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-08-18 11:42||   2006-08-18 11:42|| Front Page Top

#23 SB:

Considering the linked article was from Dec. 2002, and the fact she's now done this, I'm surprised SHE was allowed back in the States, much less her boyfriend dominator. A freakin' forestry major goes through the 60's and never comes out. I just feel for her kids & grandkids. And, I totally thought that Cindy Sheehan would mentally crack first and do something/get tied in to the jihadis like this one. Yesterday's Opinion Journal had FIVE articles she had written for the lovely Paki-Waki newspaper. A case of a "wronged" relationship splashed across an int'l newspaper to make Dubya look bad.
Posted by BA 2006-08-18 13:38||   2006-08-18 13:38|| Front Page Top

#24  Ya know what? Mayo strikes me as the perfect mule for a bomb plot.

Me too ! And from her behavior it must have beenm some brainwash session foor which she has clearly been prinmed by a lifetime of proud ignorance.


You weren't brave, honey, our parents were brave; that's why we're here. If we're not brave now our children will have a tough time in the future ...

Can't say that enough.

Oh yeah, Fuck CAt stevens.
Posted by J. D. Lux 2006-08-18 13:38||   2006-08-18 13:38|| Front Page Top

#25 Also it is apparent that she doesn't listen to modern music.
Maybe she never heard of Green Day.
Posted by J. D. Lux 2006-08-18 13:39||   2006-08-18 13:39|| Front Page Top

#26 Btw, who is that mysterious editor in grey?
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-08-18 13:48||   2006-08-18 13:48|| Front Page Top

#27 I meant to ask the same, A5089. Except that on my screen, it's as black as black can be (no shade of gray, I tell ya). There are also gray inline comments too.
Posted by BA 2006-08-18 13:56||   2006-08-18 13:56|| Front Page Top

#28 Isn't that Pappy?

BA, have you set your screen to display 32 bit color?
Posted by ed 2006-08-18 14:01||   2006-08-18 14:01|| Front Page Top

#29 Frisch has been popping up at Vodkapundit.
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-08-18 14:03||   2006-08-18 14:03|| Front Page Top

#30 Yesterday's Opinion Journal had FIVE articles she had written for the lovely Paki-Waki newspaper.

And I have several more here (plus a nod to john in Comment #10). The psychiatry column should explain everything, I think.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2006-08-18 14:14||   2006-08-18 14:14|| Front Page Top

#31 Yes, I do have it set to 32-bit, ed. Here at work though, so it's a crappy vid card.

I see only 1 inline comment as black (the one about root #/tear duct overflow). The rest are yellow and gray, with a few in that lovely salmon (not it's not pink) color. I'd just never seen jet-black mods before.
Posted by BA 2006-08-18 14:21||   2006-08-18 14:21|| Front Page Top

#32 That comment is black w/ light green text.
Posted by ed 2006-08-18 14:32||   2006-08-18 14:32|| Front Page Top

#33 Jet black is Fred, desperately trying to pretend he's really on holiday. LOL.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-08-18 14:33||   2006-08-18 14:33|| Front Page Top

#34 I'd always assumed Fred was yellow (the color, not his manliness, lol). It's not fair that he gets a "vacation posting color" too, except that he's the boss.

(channeling LLL moonbat) THAT'S IT! I've had it with Fred trampling all over my Constitutional Right(tm) to have the black inline commentary. I'm gonna sue and be backed up financially by Soros. (/end channeling)
Posted by BA 2006-08-18 14:47||   2006-08-18 14:47|| Front Page Top

#35 Grey is Pappy. Yellow is Fred. Salmon (not pink, dammit!) is me. Black is the fish that got away. It wasn't a salmon.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-08-18 14:59||   2006-08-18 14:59|| Front Page Top

#36 I thought the green on black was Mod3270.
Posted by 6 2006-08-18 15:22||   2006-08-18 15:22|| Front Page Top

#37 "Salmon", hum? Still in denial, Mr. White... That'll teach you not to show up at the reunion during which they attributed colors, for sure!

Ok, grey is Pappy, will remember.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-08-18 15:30||   2006-08-18 15:30|| Front Page Top

#38 "She's got some very serious mental health problems."

The real money line. From her lawyer, no less.

Stockholm Syndrome doesn't even begin to describe this wing-nut. At least they've already built a nice place-of-confinement just for her ...

Wait for it ...

THE MAYO CLINIC

[rimshot - cue "Airplane" wisecracks]
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-18 15:47||   2006-08-18 15:47|| Front Page Top

#39 Okay, Zenster...

Allow me to be the first in the queue to shake her and give her a good slap. Well, the nun can go first.
Posted by eLarson 2006-08-18 16:41|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2006-08-18 16:41|| Front Page Top

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