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2007-08-18 Olde Tyme Religion

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Posted by ryuge 2007-08-18 08:05|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 Can't reform something that is inherently flawed.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-18 09:26|| 2007-08-18 09:26|| Front Page Top

#2 This article is a bunch of nothing. What is her point? That Islam should not reform? Getting in a few digs that the reformation of Christianity was once a bloody business seems another attempt to sweep Islam's current problems under the rug with finger pointing and moral equivalence. We should consider ourselves lucky if Islam's reformation is only as bloody as Christianity's. In fact, we should all be so lucky if Islam's bloody reformation would result in societies as peaceful as those which Christianity produced.

Islam needs to either reform or to conquer to survive. Without bombing the modern world back to the stone ages, Islam will not be able to conquer IPODS, cell phones and Youtube.

Islam - as practiced 100 years ago is already dead. It was killed with global communications and access by its adherents to the modern world. The only way it is going to survive as it was, is to return the world to "as it was". That isn't going to happen unless Islam can blow up the modern world and convert the few remaining survivors to Islam. That's what this current fight is - the death throes of a backward culture in a modern world.

Posted by Unutle McGurque8861 2007-08-18 11:47|| 2007-08-18 11:47|| Front Page Top

#3 The only way it is going to survive as it was, is to return the world to "as it was". That isn't going to happen unless Islam can blow up the modern world and convert the few remaining survivors to Islam. That's what this current fight is - the death throes of a backward culture in a modern world.

Very well stated UG8861. What we are observing is the Islamic reformation. Contrary to the wishful thinking among the multicultis, the Jihadis are well within the mainstream of Islamic thought. Islam is nothing without its unifying principle of 'jihad.'

Posted by SR-71 2007-08-18 12:23|| 2007-08-18 12:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Islam is nothing without its unifying principle of 'jihad.'

Sadly, I think that is true. However, I do think that the majority of Islam's adherents would prefer to be able to move into the future and live in peace. How can they do that? I don't know. But they will never be able to achieve it through Jihad.

Posted by Cravins Untervehr8884 2007-08-18 14:00|| 2007-08-18 14:00|| Front Page Top

#5 But they are achieving their objectives of conquest quite well via immigration, separation, intimidation and population replacement. Western Euro societies won't last 100 years of muslim immigration before they collapse.

Posted by ed 2007-08-18 14:10|| 2007-08-18 14:10|| Front Page Top

#6 And it not been demonstrated the US will fair any better. It is just 30 years behind the curve.

Posted by ed 2007-08-18 14:11|| 2007-08-18 14:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Reform Islam. Right. Not a chance in hell. You can't reform pure evil.

Posted by Icerigger 2007-08-18 16:47|| 2007-08-18 16:47|| Front Page Top

#8 The Reformation was a time of intense focus on God and what He requires of people. As a movement, it was enthusiastic, narrow and far from tolerant. It and the Counter-Reformation brought two centuries of repression, war and massacre to the West. It's unlikely that anyone who lived through it would consider wishing a Reformation on Muslims.

Unlikely? I couldnt be happier to wish ever more lethal strife upon this bunch of intolerant psychotic murderous lunatic gangsters.

a Reformation is sweeping through the Muslim world.

Too bad there isnt any good news in that statement. As always, Muslims reserve only the choicest of outcomes for themselves. Islams resolute pursuit of a global caliphate will prove to be its own death knell. Only the most suicidal of cultures could fail to realize what is in store for those who do not resist such rank tyranny.

In Islam today it is usually radical reformers who have reached first for the sword.

Noticed that, did ya?

They will choose whether they prefer societies shaped by Sayyid Qutb, who advocated closing the Islamic mind to everything but the ancient texts, or Ibn Rushd (also known as Averroes), who preferred the open embrace of all knowledge.

Read the writing on the wall, you moron. Theyve already chosen and none of it bodes well for the West or Islams long-term survival.

Meanwhile, the majority has yet to construct an effective ideological defense of moderation.

Yoohoo, lady! Get a farking clue. There is no majority trying to construct an effective ideological defense. What theyre trying to construct is a global caliphateexactly as the Koran instructs them to doand theyll cheerfully kill anyone who gets in their way. What part of that is unclear?

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-18 17:38|| 2007-08-18 17:38|| Front Page Top

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