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2016-08-24 Science & Technology

Johns Hopkins Research: No Evidence People Are Born Gay or Transgender

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-08-24 07:13|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 Remember, genetics is somewhat of a dice roll. When you start dealing with populations of 300 million or 6 billion those percentages start to show up in real numbers no matter how small the possibility. Unfortunately, those numbers are far smaller than the number or overall percentage of the group that self identifies. They use the rare exception as a 'Poster Child' to pursue their own agenda which more and more is becoming simply an issue of power.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-08-24 08:42|| 2016-08-24 08:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Nobody is born six feet tall either - it's environmental triggering.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-08-24 09:58|| 2016-08-24 09:58|| Front Page Top

#3 This has always been a two-edged sword. If there are physical factors then presumably those factors could be intentionally manipulated. In other words, it could be 'cured.'

Posted by Iblis 2016-08-24 10:13|| 2016-08-24 10:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Iblis, why do you think the Left hates real evolutionary research so much?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-08-24 10:27|| 2016-08-24 10:27|| Front Page Top

#5 For some reason Monty Python and the Holy Grail comes to mind.

Sir Bedevere: What makes you think she's a witch?

Peasant 3: Well, she turned me into a newt!

Sir Bedevere: A newt?

Peasant 3: [meekly after a long pause] ... I got better.

Crowd: [shouts] Burn her anyway!

Posted by JohnQC 2016-08-24 10:57|| 2016-08-24 10:57|| Front Page Top

#6 The three-part, 143-page report, which appeared in the Fall 2016 edition of The New Atlantis, also investigated other commonly accepted ideas about homosexuality and transgenderism.

I'm going to put this in the 'I wonder how much was wasted on this stupid study' file.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-08-24 12:02|| 2016-08-24 12:02|| Front Page Top

#7 I wonder how much was wasted on this stupid study

The Johns Hopkins psychiatric department has been doing and writing up studies on the subject for decades in both the scientific and popular press. This is their penance for having pioneered sex change surgery, then not sufficiently explained why they discontinued what they concluded was a counterproductive treatment for gender dysphoria. To be fair, it's difficult to explain sufficiently to those loudly uninterested in hearing it, but with each attempt more people are exposed to the idea.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-08-24 13:47|| 2016-08-24 13:47|| Front Page Top

#8 I thought they explained their stopping the reassignment surgery by the stats that the suicide rates didn't change after the surgery as expected which led them to believe the problem was far deeper.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-08-24 15:01|| 2016-08-24 15:01|| Front Page Top

#9 How old was Bruce Jenner before his insanity kicked in?

Before the Stonewall riot "real" medicine believed that homosexuality in all its variants was a mental illness. Then it became a political issue.

I'm old enough to still believe that it's a mental illness of some kind along that lines of people that think they shouldn't have a right leg.

I really don't care as long as they leave the rest of us out of it.

Posted by AlanC 2016-08-24 16:53|| 2016-08-24 16:53|| Front Page Top

#10 I find it hard to believe that anyone would make a conscious decision to be gay. Why put yourself through all of the hassles that go along with it if you don't have to? Of course, some people may be gluttons for punishment.

I happen to have some close friends who are gay. I recall years ago when one of them came out of the closet to me and I asked him, "when did you know you were gay?" His answer was in the form of a question, "when did you know you were straight?"

I thought about it for a moment and answered, "I guess when I started paying attention to attractive women a lot more and realized that I really liked looking at them."

His response, "it wasn't really any different for me, except I felt that same way about men."

Posted by eltorovede 2016-08-24 17:40|| 2016-08-24 17:40|| Front Page Top

#11 You think I'm "loudly uninterested in hearing it"?

The study of origins of such a sexual diaspora are fascinating. Of greater interest is the embolded empowerment of the sanctimonious butchers that perform such surgeries under the protective umbrella of academic advancement and why it is allowed to continue.

My question about public cost remains.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-08-24 20:27|| 2016-08-24 20:27|| Front Page Top

#12 How old was Bruce Jenner before his insanity kicked in?

41, when he married Kris Kardashian.

Posted by swksvolFF 2016-08-24 22:24|| 2016-08-24 22:24|| Front Page Top

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