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Gallup poll update: Barack Obama and John McCain essentially dead even

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Posted by Fred 2008-08-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Back to Europe!

Posted by Barack Obama 2008-08-01 00:05|| 2008-08-01 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeeeessssss ... back to Europe with you.

Posted by Halliburton Elections Division 2008-08-01 00:57|| 2008-08-01 00:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Yeah - the Europeans love him. (At least until he asks them to give stuff, like troops to Afghanistan). Fortunately for us, the Euros can't vote.

Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California 2008-08-01 01:35|| 2008-08-01 01:35|| Front Page Top

#4 This is a poll of registered voters, McCain usually does 4-5 points better among likely voters. This is attributable to the Messiah's enormous popularity among groups who do not historically turn out in large numbers.

A dead heat at the end of July is disastrous for Democrats; who have led by anywhere from 8-15 points at this point in past campaign, then steadily lost ground until the general.
Obama will get a bump from the convention, but I will stick by my prediction that he will end up as the Dem Party's biggest loser since Jefferson Davis.

(Davis will forever be the champ loser among Dems, since today's 'rats can only lose elections, while Jeff lost a whole country.)

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-08-01 03:36|| 2008-08-01 03:36|| Front Page Top

#5 The shiny has come off Obamessiah in spite of unprecedented fawning and active aid by the supposedly "neutral" mainstream press.

If anything the press' bias has been a huge negative for a lot of people who feel like they are being railroaded by the MSM.

Yet, if the press turns around and is equally observant to the errors of Obama as it is to McCain, Obama will fall further, since he is unqualified for the office in terms of skills and knowledge other than being glib with a good speech.

Take away the teleprompter and he's a potato, a very left wing one.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-01 03:44|| 2008-08-01 03:44|| Front Page Top

#6 The Dems and Obama are going to initiate a giant internet voter registration drive after the convention. Don't be surprised then that his numbers soar among registered or likely voters. McCain still needs to become more attack dog than wimpy lap dog to Senate protocol.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2008-08-01 05:02|| 2008-08-01 05:02|| Front Page Top

#7 The McCain campaign is starting to show a few teeth.
With the weird but effective Paris-Britney ad, the McCain campaign signals that it is running directly against the media, with Obama implicitly recognized as a mere prop and front man for the real contest.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-08-01 05:21|| 2008-08-01 05:21|| Front Page Top

#8 I do like the fact that he hit on Obama like a celebrity. Even though it was a Gaff, since several donors are Hilton family members, including the Grandfather, it shows that McCain is willing to hit where it hurts.

Right in the truth.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-08-01 09:38|| 2008-08-01 09:38|| Front Page Top

#9 I think that the MSM has a problem understanding the power of the Paris/Britney comparison because they don't see anything particularly wrong with the two sluts.

Oh sure they laugh at them some as out of control but don't have a real problem with any of their behavior. Just like you'd laugh at the sloppy drunk at the party but not really diss him.

Unbeknownst to the MSM I think a lot of people (that old silent majority) find Paris and Brit disgusting and symbolic of all that's wrong with the libertine, self-loving mindset.

By hooking Obamanation to that image all of his narcissistic, arrogant pronouncements take on at different tone. He talks about being a symbol of America but he can't control WHICH America he is seen as symbolizing.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this grantedly subliminal image crept into the minds of the morally conservative Hillary voters.

Posted by AlanC 2008-08-01 10:14|| 2008-08-01 10:14|| Front Page Top

#10 McCain is like a clock, he's right on at least 2 issues. Obama, on the other hand remains clueless on all issues, especially race reparations, business, energy, abortion, financial, and global issues.

Posted by wxjames 2008-08-01 11:03|| 2008-08-01 11:03|| Front Page Top

#11 A dead heat at the end of July is disastrous for Democrats; who have led by anywhere from 8-15 points at this point in past campaign, then steadily lost ground until the general.

This. And if Barry is doing poorly enough in November he might even save our bacon in some house and senate races.

Posted by Iblis 2008-08-01 13:50|| 2008-08-01 13:50|| Front Page Top

#12 More like this will help the trunks in the fall, too. They need to get energized and Pence is the guy to do it.

By February, The Obamessiah will be seen as The Obamcgovern and by April, he will be growing a beard and waistline.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-01 14:26|| 2008-08-01 14:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Don't forget the bias in the polls - an unspoken one. Many peopel are reluctant to admit that they woudl vote for the non-minority candidate over a minority one, for fear of the pollster thinking they were racist. THis is especially true regarding black candidates (as opposed to smaller margins for hispanic, asian and native american candidates).

I recall hearing that its about a 5% skew, anyone that wants to, feel free to look up that number and correct me.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-01 15:19|| 2008-08-01 15:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Interesting choice of words---I'm thinking of all the people who'll be dead if the wrong one wins.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-08-01 15:54|| 2008-08-01 15:54|| Front Page Top

#15 OS - that's the Bradley Effect. Noted for the polls showing CA Governor Tom Bradley's strong support. Way over 5%......

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-08-01 17:08|| 2008-08-01 17:08|| Front Page Top

#16 Obama will get a bump from the convention
How many people might look at his Invesco Field @ Mile High ceremony as some kind of post-Modern Nuremburg rally and be just as turned off?

Posted by eLarson 2008-08-01 18:08|| 2008-08-01 18:08|| Front Page Top

#17 #15 - it also played against Virginia's Douglas Wilder in the past.

Posted by eLarson 2008-08-01 18:09|| 2008-08-01 18:09|| Front Page Top

#18 yep. Good catch

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-08-01 19:13|| 2008-08-01 19:13|| Front Page Top

#19 Courtesy Exurban League, a Rasmussen poll shows that 30% of Democrat conservatives say theyre voting for John McCain.

Frankly, it's too early for any kind of statistical certainty. But I'd wager the present actual number is higher.

Posted by Pappy 2008-08-01 20:34|| 2008-08-01 20:34|| Front Page Top

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