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2007-09-17 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Ancient records help test climate change

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Posted by gorb 2007-09-17 02:31|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 The accounts dispel any lingering doubts that the Earth is heating up more dramatically than ever before, he says.

No logic. It shows that things change. Among them climate. Given that several centuries before, Romans were cultivating wine in England and given that "Since I've been an ordained priest, the sacrament has never frozen in the chalice."
it obviously had gotten colder. We know that there are cooling periods. What we lack is a systematic network of standardized measure across the globe, which didn't exist till modern times, largely confined to a very small piece of about 100 years in over 4,000 years of recorded history. So when you hear the term 'historic' highs [or lows], we're really only talking a mere 100 years not thousands.

The Einsiedeln abbots princes within the Holy Roman Empire until 1798

Thus missing classical Romans times and the intervening 'Little Ice Age' for comparative observations.

But remember folks, its the narrative that is important, not the facts. "God still controls the weather," he says. But, he adds, people must do their part by taking better care of the planet. Voila!
It's amazing how quick modern European christian leaders are so willingly able to switch out Gaia or Allah for their god.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-17 10:59|| 2007-09-17 10:59|| Front Page Top

#2 I recommend "After the Ice: A Global History 20,000 - 5,000 BC" by Steven Mithen.

It points out there have been several periods where the earth has been warmer (and wetter) than today. Some of these periods have lasted several thousand years.

Actually the temperatures for the last 5,000 years have been remarkably stable (compared to earlier times). If higher temperatures caused mass extinction, we'd all have died out 12,000 years ago.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-09-17 14:10|| 2007-09-17 14:10|| Front Page Top

#3 So many scientists - so little grant money

Posted by mrp 2007-09-17 14:16|| 2007-09-17 14:16|| Front Page Top

#4 1671 - 1704....right in the middle of the little ice age......it was colder then than now.......DUH!

Posted by AlanC 2007-09-17 19:46|| 2007-09-17 19:46|| Front Page Top

Jan. 11 was so frightfully cold that all of the communion wine froze," says an entry from 1684 by Brother Josef Dietrich, governor and "weatherman" of the once-powerful Einsiedeln Monastery. "Since I've been an ordained priest, the sacrament has never frozen in the chalice."

"But on Jan. 13 it got even worse and one could say it has never been so cold in human memory," he adds.

The accounts dispel any lingering doubts that the Earth is heating up more dramatically than ever before, he says.

You'd prefer it be so cold wine freezes, dipshit?

Too stupid to live....

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-09-17 20:37|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2007-09-17 20:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Gotta stop the global warming now. Otherwise Vikings will again go on a tear in ~~booze cruises~~ longships from Newfoundland to the Black Sea.

Posted by ed 2007-09-17 22:54|| 2007-09-17 22:54|| Front Page Top

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