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2022-09-28 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
An American Anti-submarine reconnaissance plane flew the length of the Nordstream Pipeline just hours before the explosion
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Posted by Goober Wittlesbach1280 2022-09-28 02:09|| || Front Page|| [11140 views ]  Top

#1 A ‘black helicopter’ operation, for real?
Posted by Glenmore  2022-09-28 08:01||   2022-09-28 08:01|| Front Page Top

#2 You know, ASW helicopters do carry depth charges and torpedoes...
Posted by ed in texas 2022-09-28 09:18||   2022-09-28 09:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, the see eye aye warned about the pipeline a while back.

I think the OSS might have pulled it off; Brandon's outfit - not so much.
Posted by Bobby 2022-09-28 09:19||   2022-09-28 09:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Wat business do US P3's have flying a Russian pipeline track?

Not smart.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-09-28 09:27||   2022-09-28 09:27|| Front Page Top

#5 When was the last time our military brass did anything smart?
Posted by Chris 2022-09-28 09:53||   2022-09-28 09:53|| Front Page Top

#6 So fucking stupid. We’re in Dr Strangelove territory with these morons. They really do want to drag us into a nuclear war. Over effing Ukraine.

We need to send those black helicopters over State and Langley. Take out these idiots before they kill us all
Posted by Cherert Hapsburg4861 2022-09-28 09:58||   2022-09-28 09:58|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes, yes, yes Colonel General our mobilization is in the ditch. But LOOK!
The American Navy is flying P3's along our pipeline. This could be our opportunity to put the Euro's in the deep freeze, blame Biden and his CIA handlers, and take retaliatory nuclear action in the Ukraine.

I think the Americans call it a 'false flag' operation.

I agree Colonel General, the moron Biden will do nothing.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-09-28 10:10||   2022-09-28 10:10|| Front Page Top

#8 P-3As fly along that route all the time to check for Russian subs trying to sneak their way out. That isn't too weird. Plus the standard armament of the P-3 wouldn't be very efficient at attacking a pipeline.

Any nation that has commercial deep sea ability could have pulled this off. So what nations that have that would benefit the most from Germany not being able to back out of sanctions during the dead cold of winter? They are the most likely to have done it.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-09-28 10:42||   2022-09-28 10:42|| Front Page Top

#9 There is not enough American LNG to go around. Not sure $ is a good reason to blow up the pipeline. Tend to agree it's to keep the Germans cold this winter.
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2022-09-28 10:59||   2022-09-28 10:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I read this morning that the pipelines were built by the Germans. Russia just lost some gas. FWIW
Posted by BrerRabbit 2022-09-28 11:24||   2022-09-28 11:24|| Front Page Top

#11 
Ever consider a submersible drone weapon playing sleeping beauty, waiting for an order?

BTW: Besides the Bomb ride, my favorite is "You'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola company" scene.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-09-28 13:05||   2022-09-28 13:05|| Front Page Top

#12 Are Britain's North Sea gas lines next? Europe 'must brace for 'previously unimaginable threats' to pipes, rigs and undersea cables after Nord Stream was blown up in suspected Russian attack
Posted by Skidmark 2022-09-28 13:38||   2022-09-28 13:38|| Front Page Top

#13 #11 I've always appreciated Col. Bat Guano's ability to cut through the BS.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2022-09-28 14:12||   2022-09-28 14:12|| Front Page Top

#14 "You think I go into combat with loose change in my pocket?"

- Col. Bat Guano
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-09-28 14:15||   2022-09-28 14:15|| Front Page Top

#15 Big whoop. Nordstream runs the length of the Baltic, ASW P-3 fly the length of the Baltic. Wrong armaments and we've got way sneakier ways to do it if it was us (which I doubt, we can't keep a secret for squat).

I also doubt the Russians. Why? Big Vlad already had the gas valve in his hand, why should he blow up his own asset and eliminate the energy blackmail angle.



Posted by Nero 2022-09-28 15:51||   2022-09-28 15:51|| Front Page Top

#16 I can see that if there was a warning that someone was gonna blow the pipeline and the US felt that was a bad idea they might have sent a plan to look it over.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-09-28 16:34||   2022-09-28 16:34|| Front Page Top

#17 If it had been known since last August/couple weeks ago, depending on the story, that an attack on the pipeline(s) is imminent, that would explain patrols, but a failure to protect would look really bad. That is a possibility.

I also can't shake that the people who are all-in on the conflict is the same team who (likely) faked two different chemical weapons attacks in Syria in order to escalate the conflict, the one under Obama (with McCain's Heroes) which Kerry accidentally diffused, and the one during Trump which ended with that whomp on the (pre-warned) airstrip which diffused that crises.

Fortunately, I have not seen any serious people with the WWII, that's WW11 for you ticktockers, who have gone the 'They Knew it was Coming and Let it Happen Anyways to Escalate the War'.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-09-28 18:31||   2022-09-28 18:31|| Front Page Top

#18 Questions for those knowing of maritime shipping:

Since this is a natural shipping merge point, though not as busy as The Straits of Malacca, would there be some sort of traffic control?

Also, considering the lane merging and shallow depth, would there not also be some sort of SOSUS system in place?
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-09-28 18:52||   2022-09-28 18:52|| Front Page Top

#19 

To track ships & GPS pinging water craft.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-09-28 19:25||   2022-09-28 19:25|| Front Page Top

#20 Thank you NN2N1. Fascinating. Going to have to let some questions roll around a bit, but first thought is, yes, accepted traffic patterns.

Looks like some 75%+ goes north of that island and that is normal because I don't see some sort of re-rout 'detour road' back south off that line.

Looks to be enough traffic and surveillance that someone dinking around would look like a person driving 40 in an 80. More so with the war situation the last 7 months risking a patrol flight.

So underwater into theater, using a ship (noise) as a screen?
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-09-28 21:40||   2022-09-28 21:40|| Front Page Top

#21 would there not also be some sort of SOSUS system in place?

Yes. One around the Denmark straits and one from Norway to Denmark and along with the one from Greenland, Iceland and Scotland. Plus always subs and sensors outside the Murmanskins peninsula.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-09-28 21:47||   2022-09-28 21:47|| Front Page Top

#22 I would ask when was the last time there was an exterior inspection of the pipeline, and how often?

I think what I am trying to get at is at what point does and Evil NUMA plot get a little out of hand, like But Dirk Pitt found a 1:15 scale Rolls Royce custom model at the site!

I might be off here, but I'm picturing in my mind a sonar system working with that ping map as a traffic camera of sorts.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-09-28 22:05||   2022-09-28 22:05|| Front Page Top

#23 Tucker Carlson tears into the Biden morons. Terrific monologue tonight

Posted by Tyranysaurus White7415 2022-09-28 22:24||   2022-09-28 22:24|| Front Page Top

#24 Tucker Carlson tears into the Biden morons. Terrific monologue tonight

Posted by Tyranysaurus White7415 2022-09-28 22:24||   2022-09-28 22:24|| Front Page Top

#25 Tucker Carlson tears into the Biden morons. Terrific monologue tonight

Posted by Tyranysaurus White7415 2022-09-28 22:24||   2022-09-28 22:24|| Front Page Top

#26 Tucker Carlson tears into the Biden morons. Terrific monologue tonight

Posted by Tyranysaurus White7415 2022-09-28 22:24||   2022-09-28 22:24|| Front Page Top

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