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First debate shambles, Chris Wallace loses bigly

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Posted by Besoeker 2020-09-30 07:14|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 "Wallace was a dreadful disgrace"

At least he's consistent.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-09-30 07:53|| 2020-09-30 07:53|| Front Page Top

#2 I half thought to not watch the "debate" when I learned Chris Wallace would be the "moderator". No surprise. Who else is Fox going to cough up, Juan Williams? (/sarc)

Posted by Clem 2020-09-30 08:00|| 2020-09-30 08:00|| Front Page Top

#3 a cut-rate Dan Rather

OUCH!

Well, he is Mike Wallace's son

Posted by Frank G 2020-09-30 08:00|| 2020-09-30 08:00|| Front Page Top

#4 this is an opening for someone to come up with an AI moderated debate system:

- questions clearly read from a list. posed to both candidates

- each get their time to respond. the one who is not responding gets electroshock if they interrupt.

as for the human 'moderator' - learn to code, bitches

Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2020-09-30 08:22|| 2020-09-30 08:22|| Front Page Top

#5 Lucy Van Pelt.

When oh when will the right side get to pick the moderator?

F'em all.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-30 08:32|| 2020-09-30 08:32|| Front Page Top

#6 this should end the 'Fox News is Trump's B.tch' meme

but it won't

Posted by Lord Garth 2020-09-30 08:34|| 2020-09-30 08:34|| Front Page Top

#7 Rubbish from CNN's Jake Tapper

Posted by Clem 2020-09-30 08:53|| 2020-09-30 08:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Not entirely, though not on purpose; in the 3rd period there was about a 5 minute segment when Trump and Wallace were having a nice back and forth, with Joe making, "Hey guys, what about me?" faces.

Considering the number of times Wallace was getting into actual arguments with Trump, all the greater contrast.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-30 10:23|| 2020-09-30 10:23|| Front Page Top

#9 And Trump said something about debating Wallace, not Biden.

Posted by Clem 2020-09-30 10:27|| 2020-09-30 10:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Comey live
\https://www.foxnews.com/politics/live-updates-james-comey-testifies-russia-investigation-fbi

Posted by Woodrow 2020-09-30 11:01|| 2020-09-30 11:01|| Front Page Top

#11 Well, nobody mentioned that all "News" gets most of their ad revenue from Progressive Insurance (Soros) and Geico Insurance (Soro's mentor the man from Omaha) so yeah all media is "OWNED".

Posted by 3dc 2020-09-30 11:20|| 2020-09-30 11:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Not appropriate for this thread, Woodrow, but I expect Comey's pants to ignite any minute now.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-09-30 12:55|| 2020-09-30 12:55|| Front Page Top

#13 Trump is a street fighter and that's how he behaved. Wallace may or may not have deserved it and Biden certainly did. I say that about Biden because I remember his 2012 vice-presidential debate with Paul Ryan in which he behaved like a complete boor.

But there are many voters who won't remember 2012, let alone the eminently forgettable Paul Ryan. All they remember is how appalled they were at Trump's constant interruptions and how he looked like a junk yard dog on a chain. If Trump ever had a chance to win those voters (I know that's debatable) he blew it.

It seemed to me at the outset that Trump was badgering Biden in the hope that Biden would melt down. It didn't happen. It would seem the rumors of Biden's demise are premature. Average voters will not consider ear buds or performance enhancing drugs because ABCCBSNBCCNN will never mention them. They will never suspect bias on Wallace's part.

Biden is an idiot. He lied. He obfuscated. He hurled baseless accusations as if Covid-19, forest fires and riots are all Trump's fault, as if Biden could make it all go away even though he can't say how. He had no hard numbers or facts to support any of his assertions.

On points, I would give Trump the overwhelming win. But it would have been better if he could have made his points when it was his turn to speak.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-09-30 13:22|| 2020-09-30 13:22|| Front Page Top

#14 I must admit that I find a notion of voters being swayed by debates, ahem, odd.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-30 13:25|| 2020-09-30 13:25|| Front Page Top

#15 #2 well done. snark vote for sure.

Posted by Dale 2020-09-30 13:28|| 2020-09-30 13:28|| Front Page Top

#16 Trump was determined not to be bullied the way pansy Paul Ryan was bullied by this blithering faux-gumba idiot.

Every other goal was secondary to showing that Biden the interrupting bully can never steamroll this Republican. Trump went way over the top, but he still achieved that central objective.

The rest of the spectacle was macho-kabuki. Total waste of everyone's time. We can only hope the other spectacles will now be canceled.

Posted by Ebbasing Pelosi1525 2020-09-30 13:29|| 2020-09-30 13:29|| Front Page Top

#17 To me, the only reason Biden did so well is this - fifty years of muscle memory with debating people makes it automatic to come up with canned cliches, bromides and all the rest.

Oh - and Biden's eyes looked just like the Great White shark in Jaws.

Posted by Raj 2020-09-30 13:35|| 2020-09-30 13:35|| Front Page Top

#18 /\ I was starting to wonder what blend of drugs and hypnosis he was on...

Posted by magpie 2020-09-30 13:41|| 2020-09-30 13:41|| Front Page Top

#19 Trumps tactic was wrong, he'd have been better of playing Elder Stateman to impress the undecided and make those that call him undisciplined look like liars. His record stands for itself, some simple comments about Biden's attempts to rewrite history regarding Covid and the economy and support for riots would have been enough.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-09-30 14:26|| 2020-09-30 14:26|| Front Page Top

#20 In Round 1 Trump established that Biden's lies and interruptions won't work.

Trump can now pivot and go statesmanlike in Round 2. Mess with Biden's feeble pea-sized mind

Posted by Gerthudion Gurly-Brown7546 2020-09-30 14:38|| 2020-09-30 14:38|| Front Page Top

#21 Oh - and Biden's eyes looked just like the Great White shark in Jaws.

Not just me then.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-30 15:01|| 2020-09-30 15:01|| Front Page Top

#22 Oh - and Biden's eyes looked just like the Great White shark in Jaws.

"The thing about a shark, it's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes."

-Quint

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-09-30 15:30|| 2020-09-30 15:30|| Front Page Top

#23 I stayed up to watch the debate.
Won't make that mistake again.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-09-30 15:40|| 2020-09-30 15:40|| Front Page Top

#24 and only one of them is sentient.

Ouch!

Posted by Eohippus Lumplump6261 2020-09-30 16:23|| 2020-09-30 16:23|| Front Page Top

#25 A lot of people are saying be statesman-like while the Biden mob are generating far greater numbers of fraudulant mail-in ballots than statesman likeness will ever defeat.

He did the right thing. He went K9 on this corrupt bunch.

Posted by Vespasian Ebbereng3110 2020-09-30 17:21|| 2020-09-30 17:21|| Front Page Top

#26 Lots of drugs will dilate pupils.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-09-30 17:32|| 2020-09-30 17:32|| Front Page Top

#27 Wasn't even that, it was like French Lizard Guy black, like the foil crowd is saying teleprompter contacts.

Happens towards the beginning of the first period, but I never noticed it again, unless it happens again during the ending segment when I lost Fox Streaming Video; retained Audio.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-30 19:27|| 2020-09-30 19:27|| Front Page Top

#28 Doll eyes.

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