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2008-09-08 Home Front: Politix
Obama Amazing Audio Surfaces, HE THINKS HE IS OUR SAVIOR!!!!
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Posted by tipper 2008-09-08 07:37|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 That has always been a key tenet of social gospel theology:  that individual salvation cannot occur unless we are also fighting for social justice.   I don't think it necessarily means he sees himself as a savior in any unique sense (although he certainly has that tone to him).  But this sort of reasoning was deployed against upwardly mobile black professionals.   Like the Rev. Wright, Obama clearly is saying in this audio that blacks should reject "middle classism".
Posted by lotp 2008-09-08 09:10||   2008-09-08 09:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Well then they're free to go back to the lower class if they like, or the upper class if they can manage it ( I know I can't).
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-09-08 09:57||   2008-09-08 09:57|| Front Page Top

#3 lotp, do you think he might be "suffering" from codependency?
Posted by tipper 2008-09-08 10:28||   2008-09-08 10:28|| Front Page Top

#4 So ... back in the early 80s a good friend of mine, a black guy, was doing his theology dissertation in liberation theology.   He finally ditched it and did a very different dissertation, but not  until after a long and very emotional process.

He had a solid Christian identity going into that process and eventually rejected liberation theology because it didn't ring true to him.  Obama probably never had that kind of identity against which to measure the claims of Wright etc. - certainly not in his childhood or through college and where would he have gotten it otherwise, given that he converted at Wright's church?

I think Obama's a bright and somewhat empty young man whose arrogance grows more and more brittle and bitter as he finds it harder and harder to hide from himself.
Posted by lotp 2008-09-08 10:38||   2008-09-08 10:38|| Front Page Top

#5  think Obama's a bright and somewhat empty young man whose arrogance grows more and more brittle and bitter as he finds it harder and harder to hide from himself.

That's a great line.
Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-09-08 10:51||   2008-09-08 10:51|| Front Page Top

#6 From Sarah's speech (I think she fully understand Mr. Zero)...

My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of "personal discovery." This world of threats and dangers is not just a community, and it doesn't just need an organizer.
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2008-09-08 10:55||   2008-09-08 10:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Ummm, to thine own self be true?

Poster Boy Boomer - barrelling towards 50 and he still has no clue who he is.

Or he does and has to hide it.
Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-08 10:56||   2008-09-08 10:56|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm beginning to think it's important for whoever the President is to have at least one failed at something. Gone out of business, been shot down, gone through adversity... unfortunately, it seems we as a society have developed a filtering mechanism to reject anyone who's ever tried to do anything significant.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-09-08 11:05||   2008-09-08 11:05|| Front Page Top

#9 Big O or Big Zero? Come November, you decide.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-09-08 11:06||   2008-09-08 11:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Obama should have stopped this Messiah cult of personality thing at the start, because it has some truly grotesque side effects.

As the saying goes: "First you get disciples, and then they crucify you."

In practice, it's easy to fool yourself into thinking you have to be perfect, and set the bar too high for yourself.

Think Jimmy Swaggart, whose followers demanded that he be so sinless that it warped his mind, and he ended up finding the ugliest prostitute he could find, just to get grossed out and stimulated at the same time.

In Obama's case, he can't just propose policy changes, they have to be miracles. So he is promising trillion dollar everything to everyone and cutting taxes at the same time, and making the sun stop in the sky.

Only cynical con artists, like JFK and Bill Clinton, can get away with such nonsense, because they don't believe in it for a second. But Obama has set himself up to take a McGovern sized FAIL.

Interestingly, in retrospect, his followers will blame it on America, for being racist, and his critics will blame it on his being an ultra-leftist. But in truth, it will be because he got fooled into believing his own hype.
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-09-08 11:06||   2008-09-08 11:06|| Front Page Top

#11 In order words, BO actually believes his own PR....

Which, to me, seems very, very, dangerous. No way should this man be placed into any kind of position of power.
Posted by CrazyFool 2008-09-08 12:07||   2008-09-08 12:07|| Front Page Top

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