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2008-09-14 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

'Who the f*** are you to lecture me?': Russian minister's extraordinary rant at David Miliband

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Posted by ed 2008-09-14 00:46|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 A Whitehall source said: 'It was effing this and effing that.

Given that the Russian language consists entirely of curse words, you can't really blame Foreign Minister Lavrov now, can you?

Posted by SteveS 2008-09-14 01:40|| 2008-09-14 01:40|| Front Page Top

#2 I found it more interesting that Miliband seemed to be flaunting his marxist credentials as if that somehow would matter to the soviets. You are no longer useful, idiot.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-09-14 02:39|| 2008-09-14 02:39|| Front Page Top

#3 It is late and I am tired... but it seems to me that we are seeing a major change in the dynamic as far as Russia is concerned. I realise that on one level that is a no &&& Sherlock. But what I am finding interesting is the fact that the Russians no longer seem to be willing to humor the the useful idiots that they courted for well over half a century.

We see changes in the dynamic in our own country on a regular basis and it often takes our enemies a long time to get with our program. For example ...Carter to Reagan or Clinton to Bush. Yet, despite the changes there is still a consistency in the American Way that continues no matter who is in charge.

And I would say that the same is true for Russia. Unlike Americans, who have a soft spot for democracy and freedom, the Russians have a history of cruelty and extortion.

Are we seeing a new phase where the Russians who are now in power no longer see a value in courting their western useful idiots? It almost seems as though that is the case.

People get old and die and as they do the dynamic changes. It seems to me that the useful Marxist idiots of the Stalin era are no longer deemed to be as useful to the current Soviet power brokers. Perhaps the young bucks see that their grandfather's investment in these fools did not provide the dividends that they once believed possible.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-09-14 04:22|| 2008-09-14 04:22|| Front Page Top

#4 Are we seeing a new phase where the Russians who are now in power no longer see a value in courting their western useful idiots?

Yes and no I think. Russia and China are no longer great experiments in the Marxist social ideal, they're all capitalists of one sort or other now. Thus they'd have much less use for useful idiots who share their failed statist ideology and more for useful idiots of other sorts.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-14 05:02|| 2008-09-14 05:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Self-described "Surfer-Republican" tells House Committee that Georgia started Caucasus war.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/12/america/NA-US-Lawmaker-Russia-Georgia.php

Posted by Peace Squeaks 2008-09-14 07:38|| 2008-09-14 07:38|| Front Page Top

#6 PS, troll of the morning. Ignoring several hundred years of Russian nationalism and expansionism history.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-09-14 08:40|| 2008-09-14 08:40|| Front Page Top

#7 The Russians have little to be happy about. They were destroyed in the Second World War, they lost the Cold War without a shot, they couldn't make the transition to modernity so they've reverted to tsardom, and they've stopped reproducing while their enemies prepare to overwhelm them from the south and east.

And then there's the weather.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-14 08:56|| 2008-09-14 08:56|| Front Page Top

#8 And massive pollution and destruction of once-fertile lands in the western part of the country. The loss of Lake Baikal as an ecosystem doesn't get much press but is representative of the devastation left by the Soviet approach to industrialization.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-14 09:11|| 2008-09-14 09:11|| Front Page Top

#9 And how did the good foreign minister reply?

I mean, he surely knows some Russian suitable for the occasion if his grandfather was in the Red Army.

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-14 11:16|| 2008-09-14 11:16|| Front Page Top

#10 http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/russian.htm

How to curse in Russian.

NSFW in several important ways. List starts out ordinary, and gets better about halfway.

My favorite is "Gaishnik!", literally "Policemen who checks cars!"

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-09-14 12:00|| 2008-09-14 12:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Well, some peacenik guy just said that some Repuclican said that Goergia started the war and since I'm a republican stooge, I now support the Commies on this one.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-09-14 12:10|| 2008-09-14 12:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Petookh opooscheny!!

Posted by Flurt Big Foot1895 2008-09-14 12:53|| 2008-09-14 12:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Sergey Lavrov, Ti liubeesh papeenu pees'ku sassat'

Posted by Flurt Big Foot1895 2008-09-14 12:55|| 2008-09-14 12:55|| Front Page Top

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