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2020-10-05 Olde Tyme Religion
Pope Francis Laments Failures Of Market Capitalism In Blueprint For Post-COVID World
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Posted by Fred 2020-10-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 Francis the Talking Jackass.
Posted by charger 2020-10-05 00:15||   2020-10-05 00:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Pope and Mark 12:17? (i.e. Render unto Caesar... etc.)
Posted by magpie 2020-10-05 00:31||   2020-10-05 00:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Karl Marx reincarnated trying to replace Capitalism and Catholicism with Marxism.
Posted by Vespasian Ebbereng3110 2020-10-05 00:31||   2020-10-05 00:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Pope Francis has spent years criticizing laissez faire capitalism.

This despite the fact that laissez faire capitalism does not exist.

Posted by Lord Garth 2020-10-05 06:25||   2020-10-05 06:25|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ Ain't that the truth!
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 06:28||   2020-10-05 06:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Catholic leadership is an epic failure to their core beliefs. Just add this latest BS to the long list of examples.
Posted by Airandee 2020-10-05 06:41||   2020-10-05 06:41|| Front Page Top

#7 We've got neo-feudalism enabled by a massive state..

More state more feudalism...

Someone must have pictures of him and a child for him to be this overtly anti-christian.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-05 07:26||   2020-10-05 07:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Bring back the Rottweiler!
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 07:33||   2020-10-05 07:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Pope Frank is a Commie not a Catholic.

Looking to sell indulgences hey Frank?
Posted by AlanC 2020-10-05 08:11||   2020-10-05 08:11|| Front Page Top

#10 So how much does the Catholic Church own?
Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 08:45||   2020-10-05 08:45|| Front Page Top

#11 No fan of any tax, but if they are going to tax us and other self-respecting businesses, then the Church (in all of its manifestations/confessions) should be taxed as well. It won't happen, but still....
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 09:27||   2020-10-05 09:27|| Front Page Top

#12 In Germany the Church receives taxes, go figure.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 09:29||   2020-10-05 09:29|| Front Page Top

#13 Indeed they do. Isn't there an option to select "religionslos" or something on your taxes?
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 09:31||   2020-10-05 09:31|| Front Page Top

#14  Isn't there an option to select "religionslos" or something on your taxes?

Yes. Though it took some arguing with HR when Mr. Wife was doing the arrival paperwork. They assumed that we both were Jewish, and so signed us up, as the expat package covered such additional costs. Jew and Christians in the early ‘90s were supposed to pay the church tax annually — most do, so their children will be able to have picturesque church weddings and funerals when the time comes, but the money goes to pay for salaries and building maintenance — I believe in recent years Muslims have finally been accorded the same privilege.

At any rate, Mr. Wife is not technically Jewish, and while I am (I know you are shocked by this revelation, dear Reader), I have the typical American discomfort informing the government of something that I consider none of their damned business. Mr. Wife had to spend some hours arguing with the otherwise nice and helpful HR lady responsible for ex-pats before she gave up. He had to argue with her just as long a year later when we wanted to send trailing daughter #1 to the local German preschool for the language immersion opportunity instead of to the very expensive international school, even though it ended up saving the company about $10,000/year in tuition and fees... We have ever been a challenge for the inflexible. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-05 09:50||   2020-10-05 09:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Thanks for the real-life example, TW. Fights with bureaucrats, no matter the topic, is always a pain in the keister.
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 09:53||   2020-10-05 09:53|| Front Page Top

#16 I don't have time during the week to read fifty page papal declarations but it'd be nice to see a few substantive examples of the 'failures of market capitalism' and by that I don't mean 'income inequality', by which I believe means 'yes, lazy and unproductive people do not earn as much as the non-lazy and productive' or other Marxist claims of the 'failures of capitalism'.
Posted by Raj 2020-10-05 09:55||   2020-10-05 09:55|| Front Page Top

#17 /\ Ref comment #14: Someone, anyone please; why did I already know the German origins of this story long before arriving at the last two sentences ?
Posted by Besoeker 2020-10-05 09:55||   2020-10-05 09:55|| Front Page Top

#18 "Isn't there an option to select "religionslos" or something on your taxes?"

There is, but you can't do that if you are currently a member of the Catholic (katholisch) or Protestant (evangelisch) Church.

In Bavaria, the Kirchensteuer is 8% of your income tax. So if you pay 10000 Euro income tax, you'd pay an additional 800 Euros Kirchensteuer. There's no cap, which means that if you pay 1 million Euro income tax, Kirchensteuer would be 80000 (churches tend to accept reductions though in order to avoid people leavin the church for that reason).

Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 10:09||   2020-10-05 10:09|| Front Page Top

#19 And yes, Jüdische Kultusgemeinden can raise taxes as well, but (not yet) Islamic communities).
Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 10:11||   2020-10-05 10:11|| Front Page Top

#20 Ich bedanke mich recht herzlich für die Aufklärung.
Posted by Clem 2020-10-05 10:18||   2020-10-05 10:18|| Front Page Top

#21 Gern geschehen :-)
Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 10:24||   2020-10-05 10:24|| Front Page Top

#22 The pope isn't Catholic. He is a Marxist.
Posted by DarthVader 2020-10-05 10:54||   2020-10-05 10:54|| Front Page Top

#23 Liberation Theology Latin American Jesuit aka puto-cabron
Posted by Percy McCoy6962 2020-10-05 11:01||   2020-10-05 11:01|| Front Page Top

#24 Two words: India and China.
Posted by Tom 2020-10-05 11:53||   2020-10-05 11:53|| Front Page Top

#25 /\ #4 ..Pope Francis has spent years criticizing laissez faire capitalism..
When a Socialist (or Communist, same thing) says "laissez fair capitalism" what they really mean is any economy other than communism. Freedom is greedy and evil, right?
Posted by magpie 2020-10-05 13:53||   2020-10-05 13:53|| Front Page Top

#26 This is simply disgusting!

Communist censorship together with Communist oppression was an essential political virulence factor that protected the aptly named CCP virus when it was still threatened by extinction.

Even if the wet market story is true and the virus developed naturally, it was Communism that turned a biological oddity into the agent of a pandemic.

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2020-10-05 15:03||   2020-10-05 15:03|| Front Page Top

#27 The last two popes definitely had a different idea about Marxism
Posted by European Conservative 2020-10-05 15:18||   2020-10-05 15:18|| Front Page Top

#28 Bergoglio's an Argentine. The most delusional, screwed-up, politically retarded developed nation this side of Ukraine
Posted by Grampaw Darling of the Sith4304 2020-10-05 15:30||   2020-10-05 15:30|| Front Page Top

#29 ברוך ה 'אלוהי ישראל; הוא בא לעמו ושחרר אותם.
Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-10-05 17:17||   2020-10-05 17:17|| Front Page Top

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