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2020-10-20 Science & Technology
20% of verified coronavirus patients did not develop immunity
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 02:04|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 Oh jeez more herd immunity denial from the lockdown cultust.
20% of people asymptomatically had the virus but didn't develop immunity means the virus could NOT infect their body full stop.

It does not mean they could get it again.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-20 08:32||   2020-10-20 08:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Daily coronavirus infection rates are 48% higher in the UK and nearly four-times higher in the Netherlands compared to the US where the latest 'wave' of the pandemic is growing more slowly
Posted by Skidmark 2020-10-20 09:14||   2020-10-20 09:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh jeez more herd immunity denial from the lockdown cultust.

It's impossible to argue with a true believer. Facts that don't fit the party line/revealed truth are sabotage/attempts-to-corrupt-innocent-souls by deviationists/Devil's minions. IMO, you live in the wrong time and place BP.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 09:55||   2020-10-20 09:55|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 On 30 September, the Dutch government urged citizens to wear face masks in public spaces.

Despite the government u-turn, the Dutch are still unwilling to wear masks

Could there be a connection? Neh, we were told masks don't work by the best authorities, the very best authorities!
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 10:07||   2020-10-20 10:07|| Front Page Top

#5 Grom it sounds like you need to take your own "medicine" there...

Must delay herd-immunity through lockdown until we can push a vaccine out, do you work in pharma by any chance?

95% of people dying are not dying of COVID. Most are dying because of lockdown.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-20 10:28||   2020-10-20 10:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Stick to rent-seeking, BP. Leave real word to real people.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 10:31||   2020-10-20 10:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Rent-seeking is when you make the government give you an income...

All I can see from the lockdown shakedown is rent-seeking.

"You're WITH the government and you're here to help" just stay in your house for 2 weeks or the sky will fall..


SARS-CoV-2 antibodies provide lasting immunity
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-20 11:08||   2020-10-20 11:08|| Front Page Top

#8 ^Something* tells me this paper is going to be redacted in a couple of months - when other groups will fail to replicate the results.


*We conclude that neutralizing antibodies are stably produced for at least 5-7 months after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The dumb sh*ts [$] didn't realize that - because hospitals use plasma from recovered patients as treatment - there are dozens of papers (just type "SARS-CoV-2 antibody recovered" in Google Scholar) that show that antibody production declines to zilch in couple of months. Just as it does in any other resolved viral disease.
$ Possibly they are not cheats - just lousy experiment designers.

So, I repeat, go back to rent-seeking diatribes BP.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 11:38||   2020-10-20 11:38|| Front Page Top

#9 It must hurt to be a pharma rent-seeker AND a lockdown cultist.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-20 13:18||   2020-10-20 13:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Sod off swampy.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 14:18||   2020-10-20 14:18|| Front Page Top

#11 Doesn't a vaccine work on the same sort of antibodies? Doesn't this suggest waiting for a vaccine is foolish?
Posted by rjschwarz 2020-10-20 14:22||   2020-10-20 14:22|| Front Page Top

#12 Oh no, a world where, gasp, people won't be SAFE. It's almost like a world where people didn't die of disease before they were 40 was an abnormality and decades of eroding the sciences has consequences.

Consequences that shouldn't f***ing include locking everybody down in the vain hope of containing a genie that is very much out of the bottle.
Posted by Vernal Hatrick 2020-10-20 14:28||   2020-10-20 14:28|| Front Page Top

#13 Doesn't a vaccine work on the same sort of antibodies?

Not really. Vaccine is supposed to create a set of long lived, antigen bearing Antigen Presenting Cells which restimulate lymphocytes (B & T cells) with appropriate (anti-antigen) receptor to proliferate - lymphocytes are short lived. That's how a large population of antigen-specific lymphocytes is maintained for a long time. And if there is a new infection, it yields a more rapid and stronger response - secondary response (there are nice figures in wikipedia). In particular, there is no antibody production between antigenic challenges because such antibody serves no useful purpose.

Doesn't this suggest waiting for a vaccine is foolish?

Have to remember two things.
(a) Sometimes vaccines work better than the original infecting organism.
(2) Even if active vaccination won't work, passive vaccination - which uses anti-viral antibodies produced in laboratory/industrial setup cures. That's that cured Trump. So, once where enough for everybody: you get covid (test + symptoms) you get a shot from a nurse - no need to involve a doctor. You're healthy. Repeat as needed.

p.s. Today they have a test where they shove a stick that looks exactly like pregnancy test stick up your nose, and have an answer in 15 min. Betcha they'll be selling them without prescription in a few months.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-20 14:48||   2020-10-20 14:48|| Front Page Top

#14 8 million Americans slipped into poverty amid coronavirus pandemic, new study says

Researchers looked at the devastating financial effect the pandemic has had on Americans, with Blacks, Latinos and children faring the worst.


What’s coming after this lockdown will be worse.

I’m with that Irish lady-we’re all going to die. Then she coughed.
Posted by Cluper and Company4908 2020-10-20 15:04||   2020-10-20 15:04|| Front Page Top

#15 Shoving a pregnancy test stick up the nose brings this scenario to mind
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-10-20 21:00||   2020-10-20 21:00|| Front Page Top

#16 Foook Mahn, dey sayn I culd uv 'ad it three times now?
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-20 23:14||   2020-10-20 23:14|| Front Page Top

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