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2015-10-24 Great White North
Canada likely to drop purchase of 65 F-35 jets
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Posted by Steve White 2015-10-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ]  Top

#1 Would rather have alot of F18s rather than this piece of shit.
Posted by chris 2015-10-24 00:34||   2015-10-24 00:34|| Front Page Top

#2 National Strategy Question: what does Canada need a military to do? Are they not, like the U.S.A. in the 1800's with its love/hate dependency on the world order maintained by the British Empire, depending on the U.S. to keep things safe?

So after some revenue cutters, what next? A small military to fight forest fires and send on vanity UN Peacekeeping missions?

Prediction: Trudeau will most likely "slow walk" the new military purchase process so the money can be given to political allies. Possibly, to appease the Europhiles/Francophone allies they will make a token purchase of French Rafaels or maybe the Eurofighter.
Posted by magpie  2015-10-24 04:29||   2015-10-24 04:29|| Front Page Top

#3 National Strategy Question: what does Canada need a military to do?

You need to ask?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-10-24 05:36||   2015-10-24 05:36|| Front Page Top

#4 National Strategy Question: what does Canada need a military to do?

Come up with a single, common spoken language for their military ?
Posted by Besoeker 2015-10-24 06:05||   2015-10-24 06:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Would you rely on Obumbles to "watch your back"?
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-10-24 06:31||   2015-10-24 06:31|| Front Page Top

#6 
#1 Would rather have alot of F18s rather than this piece of shit.

the current version of the F-18 is more limited in turning than the F-35A in sustained turning and has shorter range. And has a drag problem caused by the solution to the stores problems they discovered during development.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2015-10-24 08:24||   2015-10-24 08:24|| Front Page Top

#7 The F-35 is scaring a lot of countries... why are we not just dropping it and building something actually capable of beating the russians?
Posted by anon1 2015-10-24 08:38||   2015-10-24 08:38|| Front Page Top

#8 TFSM how does that apply to Canadian military operations?

Equipment needs to fit the mission, not the other way around of finding a mission to fit the equipment you just bought.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-10-24 08:47||   2015-10-24 08:47|| Front Page Top

#9 National Strategy Question: what does Canada need a military to do?

My immediate response would be 'Arctic Defense' for commercial (OIL) ventures in harms way of over-the-top Soviet incursion. They need aircraft which have sufficient range to deliver a punishing surface-to-ship punch. Poss also to ally in defense of Greenland.
Posted by Skidmark 2015-10-24 09:22||   2015-10-24 09:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Buying 80 brand new F-18Fs, or the latest F-16v

I sure hope so. $10 billion 2020 for the US and another $10 billion 10 years later when the Canadians realize just how obsolete are the F-18 and F-16 (or any 4th gen fighter). The stupid should be charged twice.
Posted by Betty Hitler2611 2015-10-24 09:31||   2015-10-24 09:31|| Front Page Top

#11 Pro2K; basically, one of the posters here was suggesting that the F-18 would be a better plane than the F-35. I was pointing out that the new-improved-F-18 version he was advocating was actually worse than the F-35 in all the "raw dogfighting gun-vs.-gun POWER" metrics they use to run down the F-35. (And which aren't even _true_, but were based on tests run with a plane being flown with severe engine limitations and control system limitations, which limited its turn performance compared to now, and even compared to six months before the test. But those are the lies everyone has decided to believe, y'all don't want to know the _details_).

Anyway: if y'all wanted to talk about F-18 problems the way y'all always talk about F-35 problems, real or imagined...

Here is a good rundown of the whole Super Hornet stores separation problem at someone's weblog.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2015-10-24 09:48||   2015-10-24 09:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Canada will have to reduce its military spend in order to provide welfare for all its Commonwealth (and other) immigrant Muslims.
Posted by Glenmore 2015-10-24 10:26||   2015-10-24 10:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Rantburgs favorite fighter the awesome F-22 was limited to 250 odd because of crazy cost over-runs. Let's do it again and make up up the difference by opening up the A-4 line.
Posted by Shipman 2015-10-24 12:28||   2015-10-24 12:28|| Front Page Top

#14 Yah, Ship, if only we had the company that built the Mighty F-22 build the F-35.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2015-10-24 14:40||   2015-10-24 14:40|| Front Page Top

#15 Actually, let's sell the Canadians more BOMARCs.
Posted by Shipman 2015-10-24 17:28||   2015-10-24 17:28|| Front Page Top

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