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2005-10-28 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Snese Grearong7094 2005-10-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Is this part of the Okinawa deal?

Posted by Penguin 2005-10-28 00:40|| 2005-10-28 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds like the Japanese may have another mission per BMD for their PATRIOT batteries. In any case, a CVN CBG should also be based here in Guam - I doubt the Chicoms will stop only at TAIWAN iff any regional shooting war breaks out, moreso iff Taiwan keeps modernizing and improving its mil capabilities, espec making its AF and Navy nuke-capable. China may choose to attack the Philipines wid out having to control the whole of that country, and then later into WESTPAC-CENTPAC to cutoff the US MLL/MLR to Japan and Asia. The USA is making a serious gamble if it believes one CV can handle worse-case both a simul TAIWAN and NK, etal. crises in Asia.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-10-28 02:33|| 2005-10-28 02:33|| Front Page Top

#3 And a big "hello" to China!

Posted by Zenster 2005-10-28 05:20|| 2005-10-28 05:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Seems to me transfering ownership of the Kitty to Japan would be a good idea.

Posted by raptor 2005-10-28 07:25|| 2005-10-28 07:25|| Front Page Top

#5 Kitty's worn out. It might better go to India, like the LPD we're selling them instead of de-commissioning.

This is not part of the Okinawa deal, but a reflection of the anxiety in Japan over thr rise of belligerance in China. The nuclear thing understandably raises lots of hair on the back of Japanese necks. To overcome it means they plenty worried, kemosabe.

Posted by Fluns Elmang3691 2005-10-28 08:15|| 2005-10-28 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Japan has 51 commercial nuclear power reactors that provide one-third of the country's electricity. With few natural resources of its own, Japan imports nearly all its fuel oil.
Since the oil crisis of 1973, successive governments have made concerted efforts to become self-sufficient. By the year 2010, Japan wants to produce 42% of its energy in nuclear plants.

Kind of "Do as we say, not as we do". And if their big beef is with nuclear weapons, I don't think carrier air wings are tasked with delivering them any more.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-28 08:30|| 2005-10-28 08:30|| Front Page Top

#7 cant Japan make a carrier that can transform into a giant Humaniod fighting robot??

Posted by Shep UK 2005-10-28 08:57|| 2005-10-28 08:57|| Front Page Top

#8 We're selling India an LPD?

Posted by Shipman 2005-10-28 09:19|| 2005-10-28 09:19|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes.

Posted by Pappy 2005-10-28 13:29|| 2005-10-28 13:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Japanese attitudes have changed. I guess they consider US nukes the lesser of evils to Chinese domination. I still remember the crowds lined up at the Kadena fenceline each time the B-52s flew in due to Typhoons at other Pacific bases, and the extreme sensitivity to any nuclear powered vessels or weapons at Yokosuka.

Posted by ed 2005-10-28 13:44|| 2005-10-28 13:44|| Front Page Top

#11 BTW, it well past time for Japan to drop the pretense of not having carriers. They could easily support 2-3 carriers the size of Kitty Hawk and dominate Asian sealanes. Instead they build farcical ships such as 13,500 ton helicopter "destroyers"

Posted by ed 2005-10-28 13:55|| 2005-10-28 13:55|| Front Page Top

#12 What will probably determine attitudes across Japan, other than these "every time it shows up" holdouts, is this: Japan ruling party proposing having 'real' military. Excerpt:

Japan should possess a military not just to defend itself, a role to which it has been restricted for nearly 60 years, but to play a greater role in global security, the main ruling party said on Friday.

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's Liberal Democratic Party proposed revising the country's pacifist constitution, which has not been changed since it was written by U.S. Occupation authorities just after World War Two.
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Under the LDP proposal, the 240,000 member Self-Defense Force (Jiei-tai) would be renamed "Jiei-gun." The phrase translates as the same in English, but the word "gun" makes clear it is a military force.
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A public opinion survey published earlier this month showed that a majority of Japanese favored revising the constitution, but nearly two-thirds opposed changing the pacifist Article Nine.

Posted by Edward Yee 2005-10-28 14:26|| http://edwardyee.fanworks.net]">[http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2005-10-28 14:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks Pappy, didn't know that. That's a fairly serious force projector. Wonder how the mothballed LPHs are aging.

Posted by Shipman 2005-10-28 17:44|| 2005-10-28 17:44|| Front Page Top

#14 They'd likely hold out fairly well for 10-15 years in mothballs. Problem is, they have 600 psi steam propulsion systems and the Navy's ditching ships with that as quickly as they can. Loss of corporate knowledge to soon follow.

Posted by Pappy 2005-10-28 19:17|| 2005-10-28 19:17|| Front Page Top

#15 The Indians will be happy to provide whatever consulting assistance the USN requires in respect of 600 psi systems. It looks like they're going to have a lot of experience with it soon.

Posted by Whavimp Sninemp1187 2005-10-28 19:21|| 2005-10-28 19:21|| Front Page Top

#16 Dear Leader,
You bargained for it. You've got it!
Sincerely,
Uncle Sam

Posted by Uncle Sam 2005-10-28 22:08|| 2005-10-28 22:08|| Front Page Top

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