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2004-10-31 Iraq-Jordan

Saddam loyalists fund insurgency in flash point city

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Posted by Fred 2004-10-31 10:20:56 PM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Today should be almost over, over there. No big incidents. Tomorrow or Tuesday may yet have one, but overall, I am surprised that this resistance has not done something or rather a series of things to try to influence the election. I am beginning to doubt they are capable of of pulling off a spectacular attack at the time and place of their choosing.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-31 8:55:47 AM|| 2004-10-31 8:55:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 with a pudgy face, an awkward smile, rolls of fat on the neck, a thin beard and a beak-like nose.

Sounds like Michael Moore...

Posted by Raj 2004-10-31 9:07:22 AM|| 2004-10-31 9:07:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mrs D - they killed 6 (9?) Marines...damn

Posted by Frank G 2004-10-31 9:25:36 AM|| 2004-10-31 9:25:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 They ambushed a convoy and had better luck than we this time. Bless the folks who died, but I can't count it a major victory for them or a demonstration of their ability to change the election.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-31 9:27:39 AM|| 2004-10-31 9:27:39 AM|| Front Page Top

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-31 2:15:33 PM|| 2004-10-31 2:15:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I sure hope we're doing something about these exiles that are funding the insurgency, unfortunately it doesn't look like we are. A while ago I read an article, on the website of a Jordanian newpaper I believe, which interviewed a member of the former Iraqi security services, probably Mukhabarat, who said that before the war he was told by his superiors to sell his home and move to the outskirts of Baghdad and await further instructions. He was later told to go to the Jordanian capital where he was surprised to see all his former bosses and associates who were alive and well and were funding insurgency cells in Iraq with the money they have brough over to Jordan. This apparently was their plan all along. Its not clear if Saddam planned for this insurgency or if this is an alternative plan hatched up by other member of the regime. Being a fan of Stalin, Saddam probably thought he could inflict enough causalties on the U.S., by sending human waives of Fadayeen against American tanks and Bradleys, that the American public would force the government to withdraw like they did in Vietnam. That strategy was very ineffective but what we are seeing now, former exiles with lots of money funding cells and inflicting casualties on Americans and the new Iraqi forces, has a much larger chance of success. Its possible that this was Stage II of Saddam's plan all along but I think it was probably formulated by members of the Iraqi security services who knew that American conventional military might could not be stopped by Saddams initial plan and made alternative plans to eventually regain their status and wealth. Neither the fall of Baghdad nor the capture of Saddam led to the end of the insurgency since the exiles were still there in Syria and Jordan with enough financial resources to continue to fund the insurgency which has taken on an Islamic face.( Of course there are other elements of the insurgency like Zarqawi who are genuinely Islamic and are funded through Saudi charities and the like, and the insurgents also generate new funds through various criminal activities. )
We must not allow another repeat of Vietnam where the enemy was funded and equiped by China and the USSR and relatively safe in their North Vietnamese bases while they continually bled American and South Vietnamese forces. We must start monitor these former regime exiles and freeze their assets. We must also force the governments of Jordan and Syria to arrest these people and send them back to Iraq for interrogation. If there is any doubt about our willingness to ruthlessly track these people down it should be put to rest by sending Tomahawk cruise missiles to destroy in the middle of the night the mansions these former regime elements have in Damascus and elsewhere. Those that survive should be hunted down and assasinated, if we dont kill them we will at least force them to keep moving and hiding so that they will be unable to succesfully conspire against us.
Well that's my two cents anyways.

Posted by AS 2004-10-31 4:46:11 PM|| 2004-10-31 4:46:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Its about time we went after the Saudi's , they are the major sponsor of terrorism & islamic violence. They are the ones who send the evil satanic Q'uaran to our schools in an attempt to brainwash our kids. Everytime you put fuel in your car, you are supporting terrorism.

Posted by borgboy 2004-10-31 5:02:20 PM|| 2004-10-31 5:02:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Its about time we went after the Saudi's , they are the major sponsor of terrorism & islamic violence. They are the ones who send the evil satanic Q'uaran to our schools in an attempt to brainwash our kids. Everytime you put fuel in your car, you are supporting terrorism.

Posted by borgboy 2004-10-31 5:02:53 PM|| 2004-10-31 5:02:53 PM|| Front Page Top

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