Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Sat 10/04/2008 View Fri 10/03/2008 View Thu 10/02/2008 View Wed 10/01/2008 View Tue 09/30/2008 View Mon 09/29/2008 View Sun 09/28/2008
1
2008-10-04 Europe
William of Orange, a practicing Muslim?
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by ryuge 2008-10-04 06:43|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 Martians don't do Islam, and he was a refugee from the Dry Belt.
Posted by .5MT 2008-10-04 09:17|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2008-10-04 09:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah, I hear Lincoln was a Muslim too. But before he could tell anybody John Wilkes Booth showed up and...you know.
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-04 11:22||   2008-10-04 11:22|| Front Page Top

#3 I hear Muhammad was really Jewish.
Posted by Grunter 2008-10-04 11:38||   2008-10-04 11:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Y'all realize, I'm sure, why this claim is being made - i.e., it 'justifies' the islamic (re)colonization of the Netherlands that is in advanced stages and against which a few brave Dutch are speaking out.
Posted by lotp 2008-10-04 12:48||   2008-10-04 12:48|| Front Page Top

#5 This claim is bull on so many levels. They were dangerous religious times between Catholoics and Protestants and he'd have been burned in seconds if he chose a third option and lost the support of his family, friends, people, country and neighbors.

The historian is a liar or a fool. I suggest the former as he's managed to get a ton of publicity despite the damage it might do to the Netherlands viza ve Islamic claims.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-10-04 13:07||   2008-10-04 13:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Ummmm.... guys:

The report first appeared on the De Speld website, which at first glance looks like an internet news site. Jochem van den Berg confirms that it was indeed written by the site. The historian and the research don't exist. "We wanted to start off a discussion about Dutch identity. By way of satirical reflection we wrote the article from a Judeo-Christian and Islamic background."
Posted by mrp 2008-10-04 13:09||   2008-10-04 13:09|| Front Page Top

#7 That still doesn't mean Lincoln wasn't a Muslim. Or gay...
Posted by tu3031 2008-10-04 13:23||   2008-10-04 13:23|| Front Page Top

#8 King Billy was a gentleman
He wore a watch and chain
The Pope he was a beggarman
And came from Castlemagne
Posted by Alaska Paul  2008-10-04 13:44||   2008-10-04 13:44|| Front Page Top

#9 OOps. Hit wrong key. Try again.

King Billy was a gentleman
He wore a watch and chain
The Pope he was a beggar man
And came from Castlemaine
King Billy had an Orange cat
That sat upon the fender
And every time it caught a mouse
He shouted, "no surrender!"
Posted by Alaska Paul  2008-10-04 13:46||   2008-10-04 13:46|| Front Page Top

#10 A few things come to mind...

- it will be accepted as fact by muslim scholars & holy men, who will add that to the long list of supposed converts with which they woe the rubs (remember, it's legits, it's from scholars and wa spublished online), just see how muslim media reacted to this, they bask in that.

- I can't imagine muslim scholars, even secular ones, writing one of the califes as a Christian convert - proving once again that multiculturalism & Diveristy is a one-way street (or a single-edged sword to fall upon, if you wish). The whole exercise is unhealthy and fits well into the "cultural pessismism" of the Enlightened Elites.

- And, apart from muslims (see first item), I have no doubt that many of th epeople who got caught in that "internet wildfire" were ethnic dutch... and the simple idea that someone of dutch heritage can even think this is remotely possible is not a sign of gullibility, it's a sign that the dutch collective mind is under siege from islam, and that for many, they already interiorized the fact that they have lost. Would any pre-60's dutchman, even with the internet, would have thought such an enormity was remotely possible? No. But 2008 dutchmen could, because they already have lost the battle of memes, just like so many french, german, and americans.
Posted by anonymous5089 2008-10-04 14:26||   2008-10-04 14:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Just like Charles Martel, John of Austria, Jan Sobieski and Moshe Dayan. All of them were practicing Muslims.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2008-10-04 17:19||   2008-10-04 17:19|| Front Page Top

#12 [anonymous has been pooplisted.]
Posted by anonymous 2008-10-04 17:59||   2008-10-04 17:59|| Front Page Top

#13 So we can expect some Mohamed satire any day from these Dutch funny boyz?
Posted by ed 2008-10-04 18:10||   2008-10-04 18:10|| Front Page Top

23:47 Barbara Skolaut
23:43 L1011
23:29 L1011
23:28 Anonymoose
23:13 Frank G
23:03 L1011
22:38 Barbara Skolaut
22:38 mhw
22:33 Wholuting Sinatra6213
22:28 Tranquil Mechanical Yeti
22:23 rammer
22:17 lotp
22:13 Barbara Skolaut
22:07 lotp
22:09 James Watt
22:08 L1011
21:59 lotp
22:00 tipper
21:45 rjschwarz
21:42 rjschwarz
21:41 rjschwarz
21:34 Cherelet and Tenille1095
21:25 trailing wife
21:24 Barbara Skolaut









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com