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2015-10-28 -Short Attention Span Theater-
The Concealed-Carry Fantasy
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Posted by badanov 2015-10-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Clearly, concealed carry does not transform ordinary citizens into superheroes.

That was never the intention. It was intended to transform potential victims into survivors, which it has done quite successfully.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-10-28 01:40||   2015-10-28 01:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes,
that is a gun in my pocket
AND I am happy to see you.
Posted by Skidmark 2015-10-28 04:51||   2015-10-28 04:51|| Front Page Top

#3 The death toll includes 29 mass killings of three or more people by concealed carry shooters who took 139 lives; 17 police officers shot to death,
I am unaware of mass shootings carried out by CC Permit holders.
Posted by jvalentour 2015-10-28 08:29||   2015-10-28 08:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Yes, I'd like to see the detail on those 29. Were they licensed CC? Or just someone who pulled out a handgun?
Posted by KBK 2015-10-28 09:06||   2015-10-28 09:06|| Front Page Top

#5 More importantly, legal concealed carry causes the bad guys to have to consider armed resistance a possibility ... which should simply reduce the number of times a violent act is even taken.

Hard to measure that in statistics though: "Jim was *thinking* about robbing the gas station, but then decided against it because the guy behind the counter may have been armed."
Posted by ExtremeModerate 2015-10-28 10:24||   2015-10-28 10:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, statistics show that violent crime goes down when concealed carry goes up. Even the FBI shows it.

Personally, I feel a lot more comfortable around people carrying legally then being in a no gun zone.
Posted by DarthVader 2015-10-28 10:44||   2015-10-28 10:44|| Front Page Top

#7 And how many times does a perp brandish a knife or even a gun, and when the CC holder draws, simply run away? Many such incidents don't get reported to the police.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2015-10-28 11:02||   2015-10-28 11:02|| Front Page Top

#8 This is the NYT, hard facts are hard to swallow and hard to bend, so let's use some other made-up stuff that we can pass off as factual. There, that didn't hurt, did it?
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2015-10-28 11:31||   2015-10-28 11:31|| Front Page Top

#9 
Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2015-10-28 12:15||   2015-10-28 12:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Counting suicides is stupid. Those 223 would have killed themselves in some other way if they didn't have a gun. Ask Australia, you'll hear anti-gun folks say Gun related suicide numbers went down but they don't mention all suicides which more or less stayed level.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-10-28 14:55||   2015-10-28 14:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Darn near 6 out of 10 Americans believe carrying a gun makes our nation safer. But if weren't for that sneaky "gun lobby" carrying a gun would be illegal.
Posted by Claising Flavimble5530 2015-10-28 18:55||   2015-10-28 18:55|| Front Page Top

#12 Yeah, concealed carry is a quick-draw fantasy, but only if you watched "Taxi Driver" too many times. In reality, it is more like carrying tools in your trunk in case of car trouble.

Still, 763 people is a lot. Make quite a pile on the front lawn, eh? But wait, that's since 2007 so it's only about 100 per year roughly. A much smaller pile.

But since there are 50 states (or 57 depending...) that's only a pile of two. Not that big a deal. Especially compared to the 377 people who died of gunshot so far this year in Chicago. (2,139 shot & wounded if you were wondering) I'm willing to wager the percentage of shooters with a concealed carry permit is vanishingly small.
Posted by SteveS 2015-10-28 22:22||   2015-10-28 22:22|| Front Page Top

#13 SteveS, that's why we have to take the guns away from the CC holders. /liberal logic
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2015-10-28 23:04||   2015-10-28 23:04|| Front Page Top

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