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2007-11-06 Europe

Italy: Saudi king in Rome for historic visit

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-06 09:08|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 I hope they trot out the Imperial March for him again.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-11-06 09:59|| 2007-11-06 09:59|| Front Page Top

#2 King Abdullah Bin-Abd-al-Aziz Al Saud needs to be shown some pictures of Benito Mussolini's last moments.

the Saudi king gave a speech in which he talked about the need for dialogue between religions to promote peace.

Then he proceeded to sell all present some Florida real estate.

"All religions encourage people to love the next person," he said. "If everyone followed the principles of their religions, and that which Allah ordered, the world would be free of clashes,"

Not so fast there, Kingy Boy. Not everybody follows Allah's orders and more than a few of us regard him as Satan's butt boy. Nice of you to toss in your little qualifier so that you can blather on about how "the world would be free of clashes", but only under Islam's not-so-benevolent guidance.

"Allah gave us reason in order to reject atheism, and gave us faith and the capacity to distinguish between good and evil," he said.

Notice how he doesn't mention his own personal choice.

"In every civilisation there is a positive side that must be followed when there's a possibility of conflict with other civilisations."

That "positive side" is beginning to look a lot like one that is uncontaminated by Islam, although I'm sure the King views things rather differently.

"The moment has come to restart proactive dialogue which destroys negative ideas and gives humanity hope for a bright future," he said.

Build some churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia and maybe I'll believe you. Until then, pound hot sand. Right about now, your future is looking really bright, blindingly bright, in fact.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-06 10:01|| 2007-11-06 10:01|| Front Page Top

#3 Father Guido Sarducci named Papal Nuncio to SA.

/sarc

Posted by doc 2007-11-06 11:26|| 2007-11-06 11:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember the Mayans.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-11-06 11:30|| 2007-11-06 11:30|| Front Page Top

#5 "If everyone followed the principles of their religions,...the world would be free of clashes," he was quoted as saying

But that's just for you guys. We have this Wahhibism thingee going on. And then there is the world domination thingee.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-11-06 11:39|| 2007-11-06 11:39|| Front Page Top

#6 At the dinner, the Saudi king gave a speech in which he talked about the need for dialogue between religions to promote peace.

...but then...

Church relations with Muslims were badly strained last year after a speech by the pontiff in Germany linking Islam to violence. Benedict later said he regretted that Muslims were offended by his remarks, and the Vatican has since tried to improve relations with the Muslim community.

There's the problem. The Pope will listen politely while the King blathers about Satan's butt boy (thanks for that one, Zen). But when the Pope speaks Muslims around the world take offense, seethe, issue threats and riot. A dialog means both parties get to speak but it's no good if one party threatens to kill the other for speaking the truth.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-11-06 11:57|| 2007-11-06 11:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Given the speed of the spread of islam in Europe and lack of resistance to same, I suspect the King was in Rome to surrepitiously measure the Vactican for drapes. The King won't be around to see the drapes hung, but his great grandchildren most certainly will.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-11-06 12:43|| 2007-11-06 12:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Mark, The Vatican ain't Europe and there are a whole lot of Catholics in the world that won't let some Wahhabist measure it for drapes. They might not be in Europe (at least "old" Europe), but they sure are in lots of other places in the world and they WILL go and defend their Church. Count on it.

Posted by remoteman 2007-11-06 12:58|| 2007-11-06 12:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Remember the Pope "apologized" that they were upset, not for the truth of what he said.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-11-06 13:32|| 2007-11-06 13:32|| Front Page Top

#10 remoteman,

I hope (pray) you're right, but I'm not so certain.

I don't doubt that there would be many (MANY) Roman Catholics (RC) willing to go on a crusade to defend Vatican City (VC), but that such a defense would be necessary presupposes that Italy at large has been lost. And therein lies my point. I recommend to you Mark Steyn's treatise America Alone. At present, indigenous RC in Italy are not birthing enough to even replace themselves. And what, might I ask, are they replacing themselves with? A generation of men and women willing to die for their faith and freedom in face of the muslim onslaught? I currently find little or no evidence for that.

As goes old Europe so goes VC. Forgive my pessimisim, but I come to RB everyday to find out what islam is up to throughout the world. I'm not optimistic. Hopeful, but not optimistic.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-11-06 13:39|| 2007-11-06 13:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Bernard Lewis has forecast that Italy will be ther first major Euro country to go Islamic, by the end of the century. I suspect it will have and Islamic government before then. Or a civil war. Italian's choice.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-06 13:58|| 2007-11-06 13:58|| Front Page Top

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