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2005-11-09 Europe

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Posted by Steve 2005-11-09 14:20|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I've been wondering where this clown has been. Has the media just now gotten around to talking to him or has he just now crawled out from under his rock?

Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats 2005-11-09 14:34|| 2005-11-09 14:34|| Front Page Top

#2 There is little that I can find of objective analysis of Le Pen. His platform is anti-immigrant, but it is also anti-Euro and anti-EU. So how radical is radical?

I've suggested elsewhere that many of the non-French mob have nowhere to go. That is, they are not integrated in France, but neither belong in their parent's country of origin, either. If they are law-abiding and employed, they are not a problem.

But if they are criminal, unemployed, and have no prospect to be anything else, the French do have an alternative: "neutral" deportation.

That is, buy an island in the ocean for them, most likely off the coast of Africa. Build free housing for them there, and regularly give them food, but otherwise have it as a re-creation of Devil's Island. A non-prison prison. Put it under French military command to keep a semblance of order, but otherwise, give them the French largesse they have now, but let them be unable to repay France in violence and riot.

Such an island would be much like Haiti. In short order it would degenerate, but that is just a reflection of who was put there. I suppose it would be reassuring to the French to see chaos removed, that could have plagued them from their own backyard.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-09 15:15|| 2005-11-09 15:15|| Front Page Top

#3 Le Pen talks right (especially about citizenship of those who harm their country). Question is, whether he has guts to turn his talks into reality.

Posted by Nesvarbukas 2005-11-09 15:17|| 2005-11-09 15:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Le Pen is a closet Facsist. Not someone I would make friendly with.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-11-09 15:31|| 2005-11-09 15:31|| Front Page Top

#5 SPoD: closet? I was under the impression that there was nothing closeted about him.

Anti-immigrant, anti-semitic, anti-EU, anti-globalization and anti-American IIRC.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-11-09 15:52|| 2005-11-09 15:52|| Front Page Top

#6 he's also a holocaust denier. have no illusions about who/what he is.

if france embraces him as a reaction to the riots, they're dancing with the devil.

Posted by PlanetDan 2005-11-09 15:53|| 2005-11-09 15:53|| Front Page Top

#7 He would get my vote if someone had just tourched my renault...

Posted by Mctavish Mcpherson 2005-11-09 15:55|| 2005-11-09 15:55|| Front Page Top

#8 If he was 'open" he would get jail in PC Phrance AlanC doncha know.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-11-09 15:58|| 2005-11-09 15:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Having owned a Renault, I would vote for anyone who torched it!

Posted by Sgt. D.T. 2005-11-09 16:10|| 2005-11-09 16:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Le Penism is of course another reason why elite France NEEDS to get tough with the rioters, while it is still in a position to do so. Further growth of Le Penism, bad in itself, would make the problems in the banlieus that much worse - a cycle of extremism on both sides.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-09 16:21|| 2005-11-09 16:21|| Front Page Top

#11 who exactly is France? Chirac won't do anything, he's already made that clear. He's like Mayor Nagin - his only idea of action is to blame the actions taken by others. Outside of calling for calm and promising ponies - no stiff action will be taken by Chirac or Villipin.

Jean Marie Le-Pen is not France.

The people are not armed.

So who exactly is this "France" that needs to do something?

Posted by 2b 2005-11-09 16:26|| 2005-11-09 16:26|| Front Page Top

#12 France's failure to stop the low-level terrorism against the local French and French Jews for the past 7-10 years have practically insured the rehabilitation and rise of fascism. Look at the first steps of Hitler and the Nazis : running street battles with the Commies and Anarchists; promising to end the violence and restore order; getting people elected on those promises; becoming a major political party; then take over the state.
As long as the present political structure is seen as caving into the Islamists/drug dealers, the fascists have a shot.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2005-11-09 16:38|| 2005-11-09 16:38|| Front Page Top

#13 That is, buy an island in the ocean for them

I hear Iles Kerguelen is nice this time of year. France already owns it too.

Posted by Secret Master 2005-11-09 16:50|| 2005-11-09 16:50|| Front Page Top

#14 I've seen stuff from Le Pen defending both Saddam and the Assad Dynasty. Curious.

Posted by Phil 2005-11-09 17:15|| 2005-11-09 17:15|| Front Page Top

#15 Just what France needs, another opportunity for this nutbag to grab the spotlight. Between him & the rioters, France is screwed.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-11-09 17:35|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-11-09 17:35|| Front Page Top

#16 "So who exactly is this "France" that needs to do something?"

The cabinet, the senior civil servants, and the businessmen, journalists, non-cabinet politicians, etc who set the parameters for the above.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-09 18:07|| 2005-11-09 18:07|| Front Page Top

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