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2016-11-14 Economy

Trump looking at fast ways to quit global climate deal

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-11-14 00:03|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 Most scientists including me think it is a gigantic scam.

But no one in the MSM is prepared to stand up and say the the UN is running a gigantic scam.

Posted by phil_b 2016-11-14 04:40|| 2016-11-14 04:40|| Front Page Top

#2 But no one in the MSM is prepared to stand up and say the the UN is running a gigantic scam.

Of course not phil_b. The MSM is collectively too stupid to understand any of it and individually many of them are in on it. Let's not forget Al "the media mogul" Gore, huh?

Posted by AlanC 2016-11-14 07:44|| 2016-11-14 07:44|| Front Page Top

#3 C'mon, phil_b, it's settled science; get with the program.
This scientist believes fossil fuel combustion affects climate - but suspects the models are not very good at predicting how or how much. I am also quite sure that the 'solutions' being pushed are economic action by our enemies, abetted by useful idiots and scam artists. That does not mean we should stop investigating the science it could even be worse than modelled. Nor that we should waste fossil fuel.

Posted by Glenmore 2016-11-14 09:06|| 2016-11-14 09:06|| Front Page Top

#4 The models are awful. They keep finding new factors to add to the mix, and discovering that old factors have impacts other than what was previously assumed. Not to mention that some things are self regulating to at least some extent, like increased CO2 causing plants to grow faster, absorbing in the process more CO2. But as far as I can tell at the moment, solar activity, volcanic activity, and -- in the very long run -- tectonic plate movement causing continental wandering and oceanic current changes are the big ones.

I love this quote referenced in an American Thinker piece by S.Fred Singer two years ago:

In the words of physicist Prof Howard "Cork" Hayden:

"If the science were as certain as climate activists pretend, then there would be precisely one climate model, and it would be in agreement with measured data. As it happens, climate modelers have constructed literally dozens of climate models. What they all have in common is a failure to represent reality, and a failure to agree with the other models. As the models have increasingly diverged from the data, the climate clique have nevertheless grown increasingly confident -- from cocky in 2001 (66% certainty in IPCC's Third Assessment Report) to downright arrogant in 2013 (95% certainty in the Fifth Assessment Report)."

Posted by trailing wife 2016-11-14 11:10|| 2016-11-14 11:10|| Front Page Top

#5 From Steve Milloy's website.

Posted by JohnQC 2016-11-14 12:19|| 2016-11-14 12:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Niiice. Saved to my climate change file, JohnQC, with thanks.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-11-14 14:20|| 2016-11-14 14:20|| Front Page Top

#7 How about just saying Buh Bye! See You!

Posted by Herman Tingle9658 2016-11-14 18:59|| 2016-11-14 18:59|| Front Page Top

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