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2019-11-19 India-Pakistan
Pakistan successfully conducted training launch of SSBM Shaheen-1
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Posted by Fred 2019-11-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11138 views ]  Top
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Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 14:46||   2019-11-19 14:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Can they aim it where they want it to go or is it like the rockets fired from Gaza?
Posted by jpal 2019-11-19 15:47||   2019-11-19 15:47|| Front Page Top

#3 It's the solid fueled Dong-Feng 11 repainted dung green. They bought 200 missiles, with American aid money back in '96. But they couldn't get in the Erector launch vehicles before the US began to ask for explanations. Now they've concocted a story about how it was 'researched and developed' in the 'Stain.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 17:13||   2019-11-19 17:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Meanwhile in India, the Navy is conducting sea trials of a yet to be named ship, for now called by its shipyard designation of VCC1184. Equipped with AESA X and S band radars to support the ABM programme. In March the PDV ABM exo-atmospheric interceptor missile was tested against a satellite. The kill vehicle homed in on the target travelling at 10 km per second hitting it within 10 cm of the center.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 17:54||   2019-11-19 17:54|| Front Page Top

#5 10 cm is 4" good enough for better than gubbamint work. Nice
Posted by Frank G 2019-11-19 19:08||   2019-11-19 19:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Always good to see you, John Frum!
Posted by Frank G 2019-11-19 19:08||   2019-11-19 19:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you, John Frum.

That's the VC11184, awaiting a grandiose name. There's actually an interesting story about how the NTRO misled the chinese into believing it to be an oceanic research vehicle for the first 3 years of the project. A lot of honey traps and disappearances.

And that missile in the pic's the K4, a nuke warhead SLBM, in the 900km range. The PDV Anti-Ballistic thingy is this one - the PAD (Prithvi Air Defence). A supersonic interceptor vehicle wedded to the short range Prithvi missile.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 19:37||   2019-11-19 19:37|| Front Page Top

#8 PAD has been superceded by the PDV. Suggests cannisterization of the interceptors. The photo is from the actual ASAT test. The video is interesting. You even see the infrared image of the satellite target as the kill vehicle approaches.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 19:48||   2019-11-19 19:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Here. Lots of shots of the new PDV. At 3:45 the image from the onboard IR seeker of the kill vehicle is shown. Very cool.
video
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 19:53||   2019-11-19 19:53|| Front Page Top

#10 In fact, the launch cannister can be seen in the video behind the interceptor missile inside the assembly shed.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 20:08||   2019-11-19 20:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Thanks. Yes, the video is interesting. And especially inspiring.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 20:23||   2019-11-19 20:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Pakistan is in a real mess economically. In 2019, 33% of all Pakistan Federal government revenue goes to military spending. The other 67% goes to debt repayment. There was even a 4 billion US dollar revenue shortfall this year. All other Federal spending is met by further borrowing. They are unable to repay the Chinese loans on time. They borrowed 6 billion from the IMF because of balance of payments difficulties. Just 8 billion US in foreign reserves.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 20:28||   2019-11-19 20:28|| Front Page Top

#13 According to the Pakistan Government's National Nutrition Survey, 33% of all Pakistani children were underweight, nearly 44% were stunted, 15% are wasted, 50% were anemic, and 33% were anemic (iron deficiency). More than 50% of Pakistani households were unable to afford two meals a day. According to the Federal Ministry of Education, 44% of Pakistani children do not go to school. 38% of the Pakistani population is illiterate.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 20:34||   2019-11-19 20:34|| Front Page Top

#14 Which is especially reassuring.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 20:36||   2019-11-19 20:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Love the info exchange
Posted by Frank G 2019-11-19 20:38||   2019-11-19 20:38|| Front Page Top

#16 I meant the comment before that one. Lord, what must you think.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 20:38||   2019-11-19 20:38|| Front Page Top

#17 The elusive Pakistani dream of parity with India is evaporating. India's foreign currency reserves alone (445 billion USD) are almost 1.5 times the entire GDP of Pakistan.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 20:39||   2019-11-19 20:39|| Front Page Top

#18 Parity ? They were ... dreaming that ? Really ? How sweet.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 20:41||   2019-11-19 20:41|| Front Page Top

#19 Then there is Reko Diq. The greed of the Pak military led to them breaking a mining contract for the Reko Diq mine. The physicist Samar Mubarakmand took a vacation from assembling Chinese designed atom bombs and tried his hand at gold extraction from copper ore. Not an ounce of gold priduced, but with an idiot Chief Justice (and son) behind the greedy lot, Pakistan continued to violate the contract. Pakistan got taken to a a World Bank tribunal, the ICSID, who were so incensed at all this, that they imposed a fine on Pakistan of 5.9 billion US dollars. Their 6 billion IMF loan cannot be used to pay the fine and the IMF will not permit its money to be used repaying Chinese debt. The Financial Action Task Force has grey listed them for terrorist financing and money laundering. They are well and truly up the creek. They need to stop testing missiles and stop squealing about Kashmir. The jig is up.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 20:46||   2019-11-19 20:46|| Front Page Top

#20 Where will they get funding for the collaborative effort to combat islamophobia, with Malaysia, Indonesia and some others ? Some new broadcast channel. I thought they'd ask Qatar.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 21:02||   2019-11-19 21:02|| Front Page Top

#21 China
Posted by Frank G 2019-11-19 21:03||   2019-11-19 21:03|| Front Page Top

#22 I have made this thread a Classic, so we can easily reference it in the future. Absolutely fascinating discussion!

John Frum, Dron66046, I just want to confirm that everything said here is acceptable to be publicly available. If not, please say so, either here or in the O Club, and I will spam cop whichever comment(s) are inappropriate for a public forum. Many thanks to you both.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-19 21:58||   2019-11-19 21:58|| Front Page Top

#23 All public domain.
Posted by John Frum 2019-11-19 22:21||   2019-11-19 22:21|| Front Page Top

#24 No awful State Secrets here.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 22:36||   2019-11-19 22:36|| Front Page Top

#25 Except for the 'Stain's of course. But that's known too.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-19 22:37||   2019-11-19 22:37|| Front Page Top

#26 I adore you both. Thank you!
Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-19 22:42||   2019-11-19 22:42|| Front Page Top

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