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2004-11-27 Europe
U.S. WORRIED IT WILL BE SHUT OUT OF TURKEY
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Posted by Fred 2004-11-27 8:20:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 pretending that the Turks are anything but our enemies, and arming them, is a mistake of the magnitude of arming Sadaam Hussein. When are the members of our government going to get a clue that the Turkey of today is not the Turkey of yesterday??? It's like foreign countries dealing with US under GW the same way they dealt with us under Clinton or Carter. It's stupid, ignorant and foolish to do so. 3.9 billion is peanuts compared to what it's going to cost to deal with these backstabbing, lying, two-faced, Chirac-wannabes in the future. We don't need to cut off relations, and we can still shake hands and kiss cheeks - but be sure to wash your hands and shower well immediately afterward. Arm the "good" Kurds and treat the current leaders of Turkey as what they are, Islamist enemies.
Posted by 2b 2004-11-27 8:41:19 AM||   2004-11-27 8:41:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Relax, 2b. All this is is a defense pork procurement thing. The Ottomans are just trying to butter up the frogs EU by offering them instead of boeing some defense pork contracts. Sadly, yet amusingly, the Ottomans do not seem to realize that hell will freeze before they are admitted to the EU. Boeing is not hurting for work, their protests notwithsanding, and do you realy want a potential enemy to have real, first line equipment anyway?
Posted by N Guard 2004-11-27 9:43:49 AM||   2004-11-27 9:43:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I guess I should be glad they are buying their equipment from the French. Maybe we can convince them to purchase a few aircraft carriers from them too.
Posted by 2b 2004-11-27 10:35:48 AM||   2004-11-27 10:35:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Chirac's cabal has these goofs in the bag - no telling just how many different deals are part of the game.

Suckers.
Posted by .com 2004-11-27 11:09:47 AM||   2004-11-27 11:09:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm frightened of being denied entrace to New Jersey.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-27 12:29:56 PM||   2004-11-27 12:29:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Turkey will be admitted to the EU once it renounces Islam, all its citizens convert to Christianity, it moves its capital to Constantinople, and says pretty please.
Posted by RWV 2004-11-27 12:39:51 PM||   2004-11-27 12:39:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 On a more serious note, the truly troubling thing about events in Turkey is the infiltration of the Turkish military by militant Islam. The Turkish Army has been the bulwark of secularism and the forces of modernization of the state since Attaturk. If the Army becomes Islamic, then Turkey will become just another Mideastern backwater.
Posted by RWV 2004-11-27 12:43:48 PM||   2004-11-27 12:43:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 RWV - I believe that moment of truth came when the Turkish military allowed the Turkish Parliament to vote down their stalwart NATO ally the simple traditional "right of passage" to enter Iraq. We're just now getting around to correcting the "insurgency" that situation allowed to become established. I'd call it a fait accomplis. They are not just anti-war, they're on the other side. I attribute hundreds of American dead to Turkey's betrayal. Q.E.D.
Posted by .com 2004-11-27 12:54:14 PM||   2004-11-27 12:54:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 When are the members of our government going to get a clue that the Turkey of today is not the Turkey of yesterday???

True. I mean the Turkeys of yesterday massacred the Armenians, was on the German side in WW1, stayed neutral in WW2, oppressed the Kurds and invaded Cyrpus, while the Turkey of today ohmigod didn't let American troops pass through its soil.

Plural intentional btw.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-11-27 4:04:19 PM||   2004-11-27 4:04:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Good God, I'm agreeing with Aris!
Never thought I would ever type that, btw.....
I just wonder what they're going to do once they figure out that they are never going to be allowed to join the EU.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-11-27 5:24:50 PM||   2004-11-27 5:24:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 It's a holiday Db, it's allowed.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-27 5:51:38 PM||   2004-11-27 5:51:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I just wonder what they're going to do once they figure out that they are never going to be allowed to join the EU.

What I'm curious about is how long they'll allow themselves to be bamboozled into thinking that it'll actually happen.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-27 10:06:47 PM||   2004-11-27 10:06:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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