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2007-11-28 Europe

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-28 08:59|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 This is what you get when you let too many many muslims into a country.Please note UK/USA!!!!

Posted by Paul 2007-11-28 09:24|| 2007-11-28 09:24|| Front Page Top

#2 The French police need two non-lethal weapons that would stop the rioting quickly by incapacitating and the capturing all the rioters.

The first is a spray called "super slick", which when sprayed on concrete or asphalt, makes it too slippery to walk across. Once applied, unless you are wearing special shoes, rioters can only cross it on their hands and knees.

Four teams of police can then seal off a riot area, then methodically arrest all rioters.

The other weapon is "sticky foam", that was used with success against rioters by the US Marines in Somalia. Once applied, it can only be removed with a solvent. This is the preferred weapon to use, sprayed from an armored vehicle, against an armed mob.

Using these two weapons, then arresting every rioter in an area, means that a riot can only happen once in an area, or, that as soon as the police arrive, rioters must run away or be trapped. In either case, the rioters lose.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-11-28 09:44|| 2007-11-28 09:44|| Front Page Top

#3 The other weapon is "sticky foam", that was used with success against rioters by the US Marines in Somalia.

I may be wrong, but wasn't the use discontinued after the international msm showed pics of somalis stuck to the ground, in the barbwired areas protecting the Un bases?

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-28 10:14|| 2007-11-28 10:14|| Front Page Top

#4 It's time to bring the ~~Old Guard~~ Foreign Legion into Paris. Can you say 'Communard' garcons et filles?

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-28 11:01|| 2007-11-28 11:01|| Front Page Top

#5 True, Le Legion Etranger has a long history of successfully dealing with violent Moroccans.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-11-28 12:01|| 2007-11-28 12:01|| Front Page Top

#6 It's time to bring the Old Guard Foreign Legion into Paris.

Politically it is big no-no to have teh Foreign Legion (ie foreigners even if half its numbers and all officers are French) to be used on French citizens. I am not sure it would be legal to do so.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-11-28 12:23|| 2007-11-28 12:23|| Front Page Top

#7 In this case I think we see quite an infusion of the anarchists that take advantage of situations around Europe and attempt to inflame things.

I believe they were converging on France during the transportation strike to take advantage of the short tempers that was bound to create and were waiting for something to break loose and they would be ready to take advantage of that and cause mayhem. But the strikes ended before they had a chance to get any good riots going. These people are basically social arsonists that use riots instead of fire to cause mayhem.

These are the same "critters" you see demonstrating at various political and economic conferences in Europe who cause great destruction of property. They were probably responsible for the sabotage on the French railways too. They are simply trying to get the people and/or the police to overreact. While SOME of the people from last year's riots may be participating, I have a hunch this is a whole different group driving this year's festivities. I believe these are European anarchists, not Muslims driving this.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-28 12:28|| 2007-11-28 12:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Nope, I'd say that's purely ethnic and resentment against France, that "colonial regime on its own soil" (to borrow the argumentation of some Youths-leftist militants, for whom they are the indigenous people, and France is the colonizer); anarchists and the like can "work" on the spot with the Youths, when demonstrations turn inot riots, but do you know what happen usually when the Youths come to students demonstrations, like th eones during the whole CPE debacle...? They BEAT up the anarcho-kiddies, the protocommies, the tender trotskysts, they come at ten, twenty against one, sweep them, kick them, grab their cellphone, and smash it while laughing, drag the girls by the hair while everyone spit on them,... that is so ironical.

Result, after the first anti-CPE demonstration that was turned into a general beatdown, the leftist online-forums were in full panic mode ("Ive seen deaths", "I've seen one guy losing an eye",...), conspiracy theories were running amok, if only because the cops didn't protect the anarcho-kiddies, and laugh at them and told them to back home to watch soap-operas when they came running to the riot cops for protection,... there was one green-mohawk parasite of the order service an anarchist org who was evacuated with brain damage (how could they tell?), while his pal told the reporters how they tried to protect the students, but were swamped by 50, 100 Youths. Funniest part, he was wearing a kieffyeh, lol.

All this to say, this isn't social, this isn't done by the black bloc wannabe hard boyz, this is ethnic, at least IMHO.

Btw, the two croaked Youths are to be put to earth. In morocco and senegal. That pretty shows which soil is considered their native soil, even if those two were born in France, and were "frecnh".

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-28 13:21|| 2007-11-28 13:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Probably the biggest result of these riots is the change in our perception of Monsuier Sarkozy. He has tackled this issue much like the wimp duo of Villepin and Chirac. He certainly has not lived up to his reputation as a tough guy and one who has zero tolerance for this type of youthful anarchy.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-11-28 16:28|| 2007-11-28 16:28|| Front Page Top

#10 JFM - just because of that little misunderstanding between the Parisians and the Swiss Guards a while back? :)

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-28 17:30|| 2007-11-28 17:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Call me islamophobic if you will, but if cops in MY town had been shot by rioting perps the order would have gone out to send the perps to their maker. Rightfully so. But hey, that's just me. The USA is at least 15 - 20 years behind our morally superior bretheren in Europe.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-11-28 17:45|| 2007-11-28 17:45|| Front Page Top

#12 Moose:The French police need two non-lethal weapons that would stop the rioting quickly by incapacitating and the capturing all the rioters.

Taze 'em, bro! :-)

Posted by gorb 2007-11-28 19:48|| 2007-11-28 19:48|| Front Page Top

#13 "Opening fire at officials is completely unacceptable... [this] has a name - attempted murder...

Wrong. This is not murder, it is insurrection. As for dealing with the riotors: Bullets work better than sticky foam.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-11-28 20:54|| 2007-11-28 20:54|| Front Page Top

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