Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Mon 11/14/2011 View Sun 11/13/2011 View Sat 11/12/2011 View Fri 11/11/2011 View Thu 11/10/2011 View Wed 11/09/2011 View Tue 11/08/2011
1
2011-11-14 China-Japan-Koreas
Inscrutable Chinese Somethings, And They're Big
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-11-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1 Streets for "New Towns" laid out before the economic collapse?
Posted by Water Modem 2011-11-14 00:48||   2011-11-14 00:48|| Front Page Top

#2 
Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-14 02:12||   2011-11-14 02:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Glenn Reynolds has an interesting take on this.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-11-14 04:01||   2011-11-14 04:01|| Front Page Top

#4 It all started over a cup of tea.

Lui - You know if we laid all those American Treasury Bonds end to end....
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-11-14 08:17||   2011-11-14 08:17|| Front Page Top

#5 Chinese WPA projects. Now that they made the "roads" they can smooth them all out. Not as sophisticated as "green jobs" but even better as make work.
Posted by AlanC 2011-11-14 08:42||   2011-11-14 08:42|| Front Page Top

#6 LOL, P2k!
Posted by gr(o)mgoru 2011-11-14 08:42||   2011-11-14 08:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Well, now that I'm in something of a alcohol free state and can actually see the pictures, I'm interested.

The airport runway is just fascinating to me. The older structure to the left is covered with mounds of debris. I first thought these were blast holes but it became apparent this was scrapings to level the plain for the new cyan structure to the right. The vehicle tracks suggest it was 'mined' for the surface material.

I also thought the cyan textures were scan lines from the imager, then realized these were sheets of material laid end-to-end(note lack of apparent corrosion). Some time ago it seems. You can see it is flooded with erosion debris.

In the upper right, note the 'blue' roofed buildings now in decay, and power distribution grid of pylons. Below that some 1500 feet is what appears to have been the 'workers city' of trailer stands, roads and utilities. Fascinating.

I was struggling with the pattern of the 'runway', then I ran across a memory of a laser beam-splitter experiment. Much smaller scale of course. Laser thru a prism, two paths, one longer than the other. Light arrives at the collector from the two paths, one leg delayed because of the longer path.(http://www.edmundoptics.com/products/displayproduct.cfm?productid=1939)

Given all of that, further examination of the upper left end of the cyan 'runway' shows a field of high energy strikes, dense in the center.

Not a metered target, that's one of the other structures(40.458679,93.31314). Looks like an experiment in targeting aircraft(shuttles?).

Somebody help me here: A directed plasma from an orbital generation platform as an energy source? A lightning gun? A speed-of-light, time delay experiment? A collider?

Now we know where all of the aluminum went.
Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-14 12:32||   2011-11-14 12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Now this one looks like surface maintenance roads for a buried saw wave amplifier.
That's a lot of copper.
Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-14 12:48||   2011-11-14 12:48|| Front Page Top

#9 I checked. The physics won't support the amplifier idea. Maybe just an induction antenna.
Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-14 12:54||   2011-11-14 12:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Formatting fixed. Skidmark dear, next time please connect your link to a key word or words using the world-with-goggles icon in the box below the Pic-a-Nic thingy. Otherwise it breaks the site formatting. Thank you.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-11-14 13:13||   2011-11-14 13:13|| Front Page Top

#11 

Ancient Peruvians were a bit more artistic.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-11-14 13:53||   2011-11-14 13:53|| Front Page Top

#12 My guess is its something bland like roads. Could be the Chinese are building a town, or a fake town to be used in military exercises. All that guesswork on the site about targetting just seems silly.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-11-14 14:48||   2011-11-14 14:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Glad you enjoyed it RJ.

Thanks for the cleanup TW. I've not had a lot of luck with the World-link.
Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-14 14:58||   2011-11-14 14:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Why go to such measures for a PLA training area(s) that the US, etc. SATWAR can easily pick up???

Iff I were to make a single guess, I would say that China may be testing the overhead operat reliability + image accuracy, etc. of its own indigenous SATSYS, wid outcomes compared to signal datums received at ground monitoring stations.

IIRC China indic back in 2008 or 2009 that it would like to dev its own GPS Sys to complement its own China-specific "Beidou" internet system.

Iff modern engineering costs is too much for the National-State Budget, one can always fall back on traditional or antiquated methods combining HANDS-ON PHYSICAL MATH CALCS WID MILYUHNS + DILYUHNS = LOTS OF CHEAP, READILY AVAILAB MANPOWER + MATERIALS - the PLA is in the forefront because Beijing = Chinese Govt-State already pays them salary anyway.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-14 19:22||   2011-11-14 19:22|| Front Page Top

#15 As per my above post ...

E.g. DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > THE NUMBER OF "YAOGAN" MILITARY RECONNAISSANCE SATELLITES HAS REACHED TWELVE (12).

China sources proclaim that the "YaoGan" MilRec satellite series has significant utility in the support of:
> Scientific experiments.
> Land Surveys.
> Crop Yield assessments
> Disaster(s) monoitoring.

Beijing likes to say that China's indigenous techs is par wid anything in the US-West + Russia, or soon enuff will be - IT HAS TO FIND AN INTERNAL WAY(S) OF RELIABLY TESTING THE MERITS OF ITS OWN CLAIMS.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-14 22:37||   2011-11-14 22:37|| Front Page Top

23:38 USN, Ret.
23:29 RandomJD
23:22 JosephMendiola
23:22 Scooter McGruder
23:14 RandomJD
23:13 trailing wife
23:06 rammer
23:00 rammer
22:55 JosephMendiola
22:38 gorb
22:37 JosephMendiola
22:26 Angoper Smith4384
22:25 JosephMendiola
22:16 JosephMendiola
22:14 JosephMendiola
22:09 JosephMendiola
22:08 Pappy
22:06 RandomJD
21:59 Hank
21:52 Hank
21:44 RandomJD
21:43 retired LEO
21:37 retired LEO
21:21 charger









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com