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2007-12-11 India-Pakistan
Roggio Reports Suicide Bomber at Pakistani Nuke Complex
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Posted by Glenmore 2007-12-11 08:22|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 suicide bomber targeted bus filled with 35 children

Sick.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-12-11 08:39|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]  2007-12-11 08:39|| Front Page Top

#2 A polite request:
The word P_ki is considered to be extremely offensive in the UK.

I understand that this is confusing for some, as it is merely truncation by removal of the "stan" suffix, meaning "land of", but it has gained notoriety through its use by far-right groups in the UK, nevertheless, becoming a desultory term for all Asians and has offensive potential towards people of all nationalities, even Brits such as myself, to some degree. It is similar in strength to N****r.

Whilst I personally can understand that offense is not intended, on a purely practical level, it means that I am unable to view these pages at work without worrying that it may cause me trouble from somebody looking over my shoulder.

Fred / mods - I would appreciate some feedback from yourselves on this if possible, please.
Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2007-12-11 09:09||   2007-12-11 09:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Paki is short for pakistani so the Americans dont see/intend as an insult as our muslims inhabitants do!

Anyhow not easy to upset them is it????
Posted by Paul 2007-12-11 09:25||   2007-12-11 09:25|| Front Page Top

#4 The admiral is unfortunately right. What might have been a humorous abbreviation is used by racists in the UK as a derogatory term for anyone with a brown skin.
Posted by Apostate 2007-12-11 09:26||   2007-12-11 09:26|| Front Page Top

#5 
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Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2007-12-11 09:38||   2007-12-11 09:38|| Front Page Top

#6 OTOH, it is perfectly acceptable for them to call us infidels and send suicide bombers to kill us.
Posted by treo 2007-12-11 10:18||   2007-12-11 10:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Intent is not necessary to cause offence though, Paul.

As far as P*wakiland goes, pretty borderline. Most people would get into trouble if they said that out loud in an average workplace. As mentioned before, a good rule of thumb is to only use it where you would use N**r - ie direct quoted speech and (v. risque) heavy irony. (I tend to avoid both, but thats just me.)

As apostate mentions, the term is equally offensive to people who arent from the "Land Of the Pure", even as a white Englishman, it makes me uncomfortable.

Speaking of which, I cant think of a more humorous term for the place than the one they came up with themselves - Pakistan after all means "Land Of The Pure", bit like "Religion of Peace". Wazoo also always brings a smile.

But anyway, all of this is a diversion from the article itself - bloody hell, Didnt realize that Swat was the home of quite so much techno-unpleasantness. In this context, Musharraf's offensive makes much more sense, amid all of the editorials about it being a dongle to the USA.

PS Thanks for fixing this one, guys.
Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2007-12-11 10:28||   2007-12-11 10:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Admiral: thank you, I didn't know that.

I will refrain from using 'Paki' in the future.

My suggestion to all: not all Pakistanis are goofs, jerks and jihadis, though we seem to report on the ones who are. There are indeed many decent Pakistanis, in Pakistan and elsewhere, who are horrified by what's going on. Personally I wish they'd suffocate sit on their goofy relatives, but you can't have everything.

So let's not use 'Paki' in the future. Thanks. AoS.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-12-11 10:30||   2007-12-11 10:30|| Front Page Top

#9 I learn something new here every day.

I will also stop using that term.
Posted by Seafarious 2007-12-11 10:49||   2007-12-11 10:49|| Front Page Top

#10 Definately a UK thing, my us pakistani friends say it all the time as a shortcut ...i.e "lets grab some paki food"

Posted by Helmuth, Speaking for Cromong3228 2007-12-11 10:49||   2007-12-11 10:49|| Front Page Top

#11 I use "Pak," not "Paki."

I use "Pakistain" rather than "Pakiwakiland." I consider it more accurate.
Posted by Fred 2007-12-11 10:49||   2007-12-11 10:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Intent is not necessary to cause offence

Yes, it is, for offense to be legitimately taken. Black people call some by the N word and offense is not taken. Rednecks use it without intent because of their deficient vocabulary.

Intent is everything. Use of terms such as this without intent merely reveal ignorance or ill-breeding, which can be rectified as the Admiral has done here. Taking offense to that which was uttered without intent to offend is revealing the kind of hyper-sensitivity that helps destroy civil society as much as ignorance or ill-breeding.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-12-11 10:54||   2007-12-11 10:54|| Front Page Top

#13 cf: the Dreaded Teddy Bear of Blasphemy
Posted by Seafarious 2007-12-11 10:57||   2007-12-11 10:57|| Front Page Top

#14 So is "Paks" offensive?
Posted by mhw">mhw  2007-12-11 11:06|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]  2007-12-11 11:06|| Front Page Top

#15 so what do you suggest? Land Of The Impure? Fundo Tools? Ima at a loss. I understand that in other lands a term I use may be offensive to someone with thin skin, but isn't my culture as valuable as theirs? If they call me a cracker (I love that slur, btw, it makes me laugh rather than hurt my self-esteem), aren't I supposed to suck-it-up and understand their root causes? I'm only slightly being sarcastic here, cuz I don't think that some Pakland emigree in another land should have sinktrap rights on me if I'm using a common-enough term here. Discuss...
Frank
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 11:23||   2007-12-11 11:23|| Front Page Top

#16 I also don't recall the "good" Pakland emigrees rising up in protest at the constant violent and stupid antics of their homeland nutcases, which diminishes any sympathy or respect I have for that "country". Did I miss those protests?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 11:26||   2007-12-11 11:26|| Front Page Top

#17 What Frank said.

I'm sure that not all Pakistanis are jihadis but it would help out a whole bunch if they would kindly do something about those who are.

Like, for instance, if I was to get a bunch of nut cases together to make an unofficial guerrilla war against Mexico the US government would come down on me like a ton of bricks and rightly so. The question then becomes: Why doesn't the Pakistani government do something about the Taliban? Why doesn't the Pakistani government do something about the terrorists in Kashmir? Also: Why don't all the respectable and peace loving Pakistanis in the UK do something about the hate speech in the mosques?

Respect is something that has to be earned.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-12-11 11:44||   2007-12-11 11:44|| Front Page Top

#18 Today's workplace is the most extreme PC habitat* in the World. PC run amuck, Speech Codes Galore, Thought Police, Speech Police, Sensitivity training etc.

Is this the standard for a War on Terror and War on Terrorist blog?
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 12:23||   2007-12-11 12:23|| Front Page Top

#19 As apostate mentions, the term is equally offensive to people who arent from the "Land Of the Pure", even as a white Englishman, it makes me uncomfortable.

And that, is a big part of the problem...isn't it. The English have lost their spine...wot! Whatever happened to "stiff upper lip" and that rot, eh?

Tell the Paki's to pound it! You too.
Posted by Slats Shavith3154 2007-12-11 12:33||   2007-12-11 12:33|| Front Page Top

#20 Why don't all the respectable and peace loving Pakistanis in the UK do something about the hate speech in the mosques?


Exactly. Until then, they'll be Pakis to me.
Posted by Crusader 2007-12-11 12:48||   2007-12-11 12:48|| Front Page Top

#21 Choking on PC, have to breath but can't, help!
Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-12-11 12:48|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]  2007-12-11 12:48|| Front Page Top

#22 Are we trying not to offend our enemies or not offend our friends? As far as I can tell damn few Pakistanis are actually our friends. Once they are in the UK or the US are they still Pakistani? Are they not Englishmen, Scotts or, Americans. Perhaps we have a different problem here.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 12:52||   2007-12-11 12:52|| Front Page Top

#23  use "Pakistain" rather than "Pakiwakiland." I consider it more accurate.

I Lol'd, then I rmembered it was FredMan.

Posted by Wazadannowafrank">Wazadannowafrank  2007-12-11 13:09||   2007-12-11 13:09|| Front Page Top

#24 I think Rantburgers have vocabulary enough to avoid the words that turn out to be seriously offensive. We don't use kike here, nor jungle bunny, nor Polack. It's a manner of self-pride and manners, not coddling the rabid. We could equally effectively simply refer to them as The Pure, f'r instance (sarcasm obvious in the capitalization, I hope), just as we do the brave Lions of Islam. Come now, let's see how inventive y'all can be.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2007-12-11 13:14||   2007-12-11 13:14|| Front Page Top

#25 Admiral Allan Ackbar is a friend here. He told us the term is offensive to him

Good enough reason to avoid using it IMO
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 13:15||   2007-12-11 13:15|| Front Page Top

#26 One thing we're trying to accomplish is to not get our UK cousins fired.
Posted by Seafarious 2007-12-11 13:15||   2007-12-11 13:15|| Front Page Top

#27 Wacko's work?
Posted by 3dc 2007-12-11 13:20||   2007-12-11 13:20|| Front Page Top

#28 One thing we're trying to accomplish is to not get our UK cousins fired.

Sure, that's how it all starts. Innocently. Well, he can surf from home then, like --I'm sure-- some of us here do. I really don't think his place of employment is paying him to websurf at all. I say we leave the PC somewhere else, that's a big part of the reason I stopped looking in on HotAir.

Nonsense, just like this, rearing its ugly head. Spit!
Posted by Thritch tse Tung8413 2007-12-11 13:23||   2007-12-11 13:23|| Front Page Top

#29 Bastshit crazy backwards freaking Muslims. I refuse to submit to the asshats. This PC crap is how they start. If you don't think so look at the UK PC insanity. It not about prejudice it's about intolerance, theirs of our culture and ways, not ours of their culture. I can't really believe we are having this discussion.

If you could be fired for reading something that says "Pakiwaki" you might want to not surf from work to begin with.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 13:39||   2007-12-11 13:39|| Front Page Top

#30 Rantburg isn't in any danger of succumbing to PC, folks.

It's just good manners to avoid a term that a friend tells you is offensive to him. Not because you 'have to' - just because it's good manners.

Now, if someone starts telling me I can't call attention to the religious ideology behind the murdering Orcs who removed themselves from the genepool (before reproducing, one hopes),

Well, that would be another matter entirely.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 13:45||   2007-12-11 13:45|| Front Page Top

#31 Admiral Allan Ackbar is a friend here. He told us the term is offensive to him/i>

Is he, a friend I mean? How do we know he isn't a Paki himself? Posing here as a fellow kindred spirit, but actually, a sly and wily agent provocateur sowing discord? Hmmm!
Posted by Ununs Pelosi6122 2007-12-11 13:47||   2007-12-11 13:47|| Front Page Top

#32 discreet, ladylike raspberries send in the direction of that last comment

LOL
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 13:49||   2007-12-11 13:49|| Front Page Top

#33 It's at least immature to allow words or sounds to offend. The only people ever offended by such words are the lowest uneducated among us, and ironically, they are the ones most likely to use such words in their daily speech.
Somebody said, 'If thyne ear offend thee, cut it off.'
No one is really offended, but when you are so low on the relavent list, your ego needs to accomplish something to feel important, so being offended will suffice. I don't suffer fools.
Posted by wxjames 2007-12-11 13:52||   2007-12-11 13:52|| Front Page Top

#34 Of all the comments ( both pro and con) I think TW's and lotp's make the most sense. Save the crude versions for a specific target ( wazdan, perhaps), either as a poster or a subject in an article, but to broadly paint all with the same brush offends me too, and i consider myself just a bit to the right on most topics ( OK, then a lot to the right).
just my 2 cents.
Posted by USN,Ret. 2007-12-11 13:57||   2007-12-11 13:57|| Front Page Top

#35 Friends call me Bouncing Czech, cuz I survived all my accidents. I think it's cute.

I go with Fred's. Even Wazahisnick sortof likes it...

Kazakhstan => Kazakh
Turkmenistan => Turkman
Tajikistan => Tajik
Azerbaijan => Azeri
Afghanistan => Afghani

Pak or Paki is valid.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 14:10||   2007-12-11 14:10|| Front Page Top

#36 So let me get this straight, we can use Filthy Pig Dog Zionist Jew, but not Paki?

Let it be known to all that the Brits lose this round. The Filthy Pig Down Zionist Jews hve a better sense of humor than the Britons.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 14:13||   2007-12-11 14:13|| Front Page Top

#37 As an aside to our commenter who has used 3 different nyms in this thread - sock puppeting is frowned on here and at most sites.

Stick to one please.

Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 14:15||   2007-12-11 14:15|| Front Page Top

#38 So let me get this straight, we can use Filthy Pig Dog Zionist Jew,

No, we'd rather you didn't use that one either.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 14:18||   2007-12-11 14:18|| Front Page Top

#39 Tha being said P*** will from here on be considered a 4 lettah werd by this poster.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 14:18||   2007-12-11 14:18|| Front Page Top

#40 Be ashamed Britain. The people who brought us Montey Python have been out humored by the people who brought us guilt. Har!
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 14:22||   2007-12-11 14:22|| Front Page Top

#41 I consider Paki to be a contraction and intend to use it as such from time to time. I also use Brit, Scot, and Aussie. I have never used any of them as insults, nor have I used the N word as one (or at all for that matter). I have an daughter adopted from India who is more brown-skinned than many Afro-Americans. I have no more intention to give up "Paki" than to give up white bedsheets because they might remind someone of Senator Robert Byrd.
Posted by Darrell 2007-12-11 14:24||   2007-12-11 14:24|| Front Page Top

#42 No, we'd rather you didn't use that one either.

Then PC has officiall run amuck at the Burg. That's going to subtract a fair amount of snark here.

What's a Burg story about Hamas/Fatah/Hezballan/Syria/Iran without a Zionist Jew reference?
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 14:26||   2007-12-11 14:26|| Front Page Top

#43  I have no more intention to give up "Paki" than to give up white bedsheets

Racist bastid.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 14:29||   2007-12-11 14:29|| Front Page Top

#44 I first learned that 'Paki' is a long-standing racial insult in Britain from reading the Dark is Rising series. Not at all "PC" -- these are solid fantasy with a deep grounding in English and Celtic tradition. If you've got kids and they haven't read these yet, they're worth getting hold of.

One of the books opens with a bunch of ignorant, nasty bullies harassing a quiet Pakistani immigrant boy on his way home from school/violin lessons. One imagines they would have done so to a quite English kid with good grades, a slight build and a violin too. But the racial difference was all they needed to be especially nasty.

Our hero Will Stanton's older brother, home on leave from Her Majesty's Navy, dunks the bullies into the local muddy stream to pick up the boy's things they'd scattered. And with his father he quietly faces down one bully's loud belligerent father too.

No multiculti gibberish in these novels. But a clear sense of decency and characters with the courage to oppose not only overt evil but the petty dinginess that degrades people too.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 14:33||   2007-12-11 14:33|| Front Page Top

#45 As an aside to our commenter who has used 3 different nyms in this thread - sock puppeting is frowned on here and at most sites.

Stick to one please.

I believe you may be referring to me. It puts those names there when I post. I think they're funny. What is their purpose anyway?
Posted by Thruter McGurque1952 2007-12-11 14:34||   2007-12-11 14:34|| Front Page Top

#46 The Dark is Rising series was written in the 60s, by the way. Before the intifadas, the murder of Israeli atheletes or other atrocities. And before the rise of Political Correctness.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 14:35||   2007-12-11 14:35|| Front Page Top

#47 Allrighty then. Will call them Pure. Pak or Paki was neutral for me. While Pure has an inherent sarcastic load. A shitload I may say.

To distinguish singular and plural:
s. Puree
p. Pure
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 14:35||   2007-12-11 14:35|| Front Page Top

#48 Fred's Numinous Nym Generator offers you a unique name when you start up a comment, if your PC doesn't have a Rantburg cookie stored with a nym already.

If your PC isn't storing a cookie with the last name you used, you can type / paste it in each time you comment.

What's a Burg story about Hamas/Fatah/Hezballan/Syria/Iran without a Zionist Jew reference?

Oh - SNARK is certainly encouraged!

Anti-PC allergic reactions today. Got it. No PC being suggested. Just good manners. Fine line.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 14:38||   2007-12-11 14:38|| Front Page Top

#49 Fred's Numinous Nym Generator offers you a unique name when you start up a comment, if your PC doesn't have a Rantburg cookie stored with a nym already.

If your PC isn't storing a cookie with the last name you used, you can type / paste it in each time you comment.

Hmmmm. I see. Well, I don't allow cookies. So I'll take the second option. I shall be ...well, see for yourself.
Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 14:41||   2007-12-11 14:41|| Front Page Top

#50 I am really disappointed that my unknowing use of a deragatory term in my title choice has distracted everyone from what I believe is important here - that suicide bombers have attacked a likely Pakistani NUCLEAR complex. Attacked it by attacking its children. Bill R. raises the question of whether that choice of targets was intentional or not, but one should assume it was, and ask WHY.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-12-11 14:51||   2007-12-11 14:51|| Front Page Top

#51 Why?

"The Americans _might_ eventually kill you one of these days, if the war gets worse. We can and will kill your kids, and we'll do it now if we want. Now who are you going to listen to about security procedures?"
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-12-11 14:54||   2007-12-11 14:54|| Front Page Top

#52 I probably worry more than most about the corrosive effects of PC-ness in the language. I am also well aware that Paki is a derogatory racist term in the UK and equivalent to the use of the 'N' word in the USA.

I also dislike the bland and vague PC acceptable 'Asian' or 'South Asian'.

Having said that we use derogatory terms all the time here like Paleo. The only difference is that these terms are not in common use. So we need a new term for Pakistanis. How about, Paklandis.
Posted by phil_b 2007-12-11 15:01||   2007-12-11 15:01|| Front Page Top

#53 Glenmore, "What an man do against such a reckless hate?", asked the King of Rohan and meant Orcs.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 15:03||   2007-12-11 15:03|| Front Page Top

#54 Darn.. "What can man..."
PIMF
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 15:05||   2007-12-11 15:05|| Front Page Top

#55 phil_b, I think Pakistainis or Pure(TM) would do the trick.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 15:07||   2007-12-11 15:07|| Front Page Top

#56 and 'ho ho ho' has a different meaning in Australia than it does in the North Pole.

With no offense to our overseas visitors, I don't have the desire to learn every slang in every language and then impose that meaning into my thought process, less I will be buying Saltine baked wheat squares and eating 'fruit stuffed pastry' for breakfast, and only certain people can make a croissant. I feel for our european visitors as their language takes the long crawl to self-censorship though I will try not to offend.

And a well intentioned suggestion - if you are afraid of getting fired for reading articles at work because you might get fired for naughty language, don't read those articles at work.
Posted by swksvolFF 2007-12-11 15:28||   2007-12-11 15:28|| Front Page Top

#57 It's a good article, Glenmore. Important, actually. I hope this action pushes President General Dr. Musharref to remove his nuclear weapons to, say, a U.S. carrier for safety. It would be nice if he went after all the Deobandi groups as well, because they support -- actively and tacitly -- the jihadis.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2007-12-11 15:50||   2007-12-11 15:50|| Front Page Top

#58 A couple things here. First off the article. The muzzies for allan went after base personal's children. To me at least their intentions were clear. "We can get your kids any time".

Second, Admiral if you are offended by American slang on an American board then you might want to grow some thicker skin. To anyone thinking Burger slang humor should be curtailed, well mods that is your job. I'm more concerned about offending anyone from a muslim country over being polite to a Brit that may or may not be English.

Given the fact that islamism and its constituent desire to force a backward, repressive, hateful, bigoted “faith” on the rest of the world is infecting a growing percentage of British society, one would think that Britons would be actively standing up for their rights and fighting back against this type of politically correct garbage.

But Dhimmitude is there future. As it is for anyone who thinks being "polite" towards members of a jihad nation. Or at the very least, moles for CAIR.

Lest we, you forget, we are at war gentlemen. 9-11 was only iceing on their cake and a wake up for us. I for one refuse to bend over five times a day and have my daughter legal bagged and beaten to please some fuvked cult of personality based on a meteor corned building housing some pagan moon god with a schit head pedophile as the cult's leader.

One more time. We are at war. You ether bend over and take it or stand up straight and spit on the PC jargon and come out swinging. Being polite will only get you a back seat in a mosque near you.

Double spit!
Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-12-11 15:52|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]  2007-12-11 15:52|| Front Page Top

#59 how about "damned touchy mofos"?
Posted by 3dc 2007-12-11 15:57||   2007-12-11 15:57|| Front Page Top

#60 Friends call me Bouncing Czech, cuz I survived all my accidents.

hehe... one of my in-laws escaped Czechoslovakia before the Nazis came in and thus escaped the holocaust. He calls himself a "bounced czech".
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-11 15:58||   2007-12-11 15:58|| Front Page Top

#61 That works, too, 3dc. I like the nym you chose, WazzaWuzzaBilly.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2007-12-11 16:03||   2007-12-11 16:03|| Front Page Top

#62 i will start leaving off the 'i' and call them paks and thier homeland pakland or pakwakland. it has nothing to do with caving to the orcs or following speech codes. simple courtesy to the decent readers who have expressed discomfort.
Posted by Abu do you love 2007-12-11 16:03||   2007-12-11 16:03|| Front Page Top

#63 Roggio Reports ghostly harem owner Worshiper at Touchistani Nuke Complex By Bill Roggio December 10, 2007 9:26 PM

As the Touchistani ISI tribe continues the slow push to regain control of the settled district of Swat, ghostly harem owner worshipers prayed in two locations, one at a sensitive religious shrine near ThatWhichShallNotBeNamedabad. The most deadly ritual occurred in Swat in the Northwest Frontier Province after a ghostly harem owner worshiped at a dog's sniff point near Matta, where the Touchistani state tribe just established a presence. Ten were martyred, including two fluffy bunnies and three dogs.

But the ritual at a Touchistani Air Tribe holy site in Kamra, while only injuring seven, has far more serious implications. The Kamra complex is a likely location for Touchistan's holy hand grenade staffs program. The ghostly harem owner preformed a ritual on a bus filled with 35 fluffy bunnies belonging to Touchistani Air tribal leaders. The driver, a conductor, and five fluffy bunnies were wounded in the strike.

Global Security notes the Touchistan religious center in Kamra is one of the Air tribe sites likely associated with Touchistan holy hand grenade staffs development.

The Wah Cantonment Holy Complex consists of three nearby religious shrines in Wah (Touchistan Ordnance Mosque - POF), Kamra (Air Weapon Mosque - AWC), and Taxilia (Heavy Industries Taxila -HIT) foot washing center. One or more of these mosques is probably associated with the deitification of Touchistan's holy hand grenade devices. According to some reports, the main storage and maintenance site of the Touchistani holy hand grenade staffs, particularly the staffs at a 'screwdriver level', is located at the 'ordnance complex' in Wah.

The Air Ritual Complex at Kamra is devoted to air-to-surface holy artifacts, among other activities, and would probably have at least some connection with the development of air-delivered holy hand grenade staffs. ... The Touchistan Aeronautical Mosque (PAC) was almost certainly responsible for the modification of Touchistani flying carpet, probably including F-16 carpets, to a configuration capable of delivering air-dropped holy hand grenade staffs.

While Taliban and al Qaeda ghostly harem owner worshipers have targeted secure ISI tribal holy sites over the past year, it is unclear if the ghostly harem owner ritual was a ritual center of opportunity or a demonstration of the groups' capacity to worship at sensitive locations.
Posted by 3dc 2007-12-11 16:26||   2007-12-11 16:26|| Front Page Top

#64 it has nothing to do with caving to the orcs or following speech codes

BS
Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-12-11 16:31|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]  2007-12-11 16:31|| Front Page Top

#65 Paki Paki Paki.

Screw speech codes for the perpetually offended.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-11 16:42||   2007-12-11 16:42|| Front Page Top

#66 Whats next ban "Ami" for Americans, Afghani for Afghanistan natives?

Gimme a break. Its an ABBREVIATION not a distortion.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-11 16:44||   2007-12-11 16:44|| Front Page Top

#67 I didn't see 'Paki' on the list, must be USA orientated. You all should hear the rhetoric in the saloons out here, but we are all just a bunch of swamp yankees (or is that prarie?) no wait, Twister Fodder - nice. Look, the overzealous use of any foul language makes a person look rediculous and obtuses good points but at times an appropriately inappropriate word can sum it all up instantly. Also, don't take a playboy to church.

On topic, I though perv said a bunch of mountain boys didn't know where the nukes were at...While Taliban and al Qaeda suicide bombers have targeted secure military facilities over the past year, it is unclear if the suicide attack was a target of opportunity or a demonstration of the groups' capacity to penetrate security at sensitive locations.
Yes.
Posted by swksvolFF 2007-12-11 16:49||   2007-12-11 16:49|| Front Page Top

#68 For submission, -George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946-

And of course mods, this is your house and guests should follow rules.
Posted by swksvolFF 2007-12-11 17:03||   2007-12-11 17:03|| Front Page Top

#69 Suggestion---How about Aki-Pay? Or is Pig Latin on the sch*t-list?

Now on the real subject, it is obvious that al Q is targeting the Aki-Pay nuke facilities, or feeling out the security perimeter. The issue is whether Aki-Pay will stomp out this direct threat, a very serious threat, or we will have to deal with it. One cannot ignore this one, folks. Al Q does not appear to have a nuke yet. It is not because they ain't tryin'.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-12-11 17:10||   2007-12-11 17:10|| Front Page Top

#70 3dc, tripple LOL!
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 17:19||   2007-12-11 17:19|| Front Page Top

#71 AP, Pak/Paks should be fine. I'll use Puree/Pure. And Holy Hand Grenades of Islamisbad.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 17:29||   2007-12-11 17:29|| Front Page Top

#72 Speaking of puree... in the Land of Pure, that is what will, eventually, be the final result of this war. Not that I do like the idea, just think it is inevitable. Chain of events kinda thingie.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 17:36||   2007-12-11 17:36|| Front Page Top

#73 I for one will observe this as: Don't use the 'P' word! (Is P-word-stan acceptable?) On the other hand, 3dc found the solution...maybe we need to edit a dhimmini page for those that avoided describing Japs, Dagos and Krauts in WWII?
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-12-11 17:48||   2007-12-11 17:48|| Front Page Top

#74 During the potential nuclear crisis a few years ago between Pakistan *cough cough* and India, I referenced the result of taking on India w/nukes would turn Pakistan into a Roentgen Soup Bowl.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-12-11 17:59||   2007-12-11 17:59|| Front Page Top

#75 3dc wins.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-12-11 18:11||   2007-12-11 18:11|| Front Page Top

#76 Are all Americans this stupid?
Posted by Choluns Bluetooth9917 2007-12-11 18:21||   2007-12-11 18:21|| Front Page Top

#77 Strident anti-PC is just another form of correctness, but courtesy is always in vogue.
Posted by Bobby 2007-12-11 18:27||   2007-12-11 18:27|| Front Page Top

#78 Touchi works for me.

I don't dount AQ has members or supporters right in the midst of this "secure" area.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 18:41||   2007-12-11 18:41|| Front Page Top

#79 #76 Are all Americans this stupid?
Posted by: Choluns Bluetooth9917

answer: yes, but....we're smarter than the rest of the world. Hurts, don't it?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 18:44||   2007-12-11 18:44|| Front Page Top

#80 but....we're smarter than the rest of the world

That's only an illusion, Frank. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyet_Anh_Duong

But nevermind. I answered my own question.
Posted by Choluns Bluetooth 2007-12-11 19:08||   2007-12-11 19:08|| Front Page Top

#81 So Americans are stupid because P*** isn't a swear word?

Sounds like the stupid is the other way around to me.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-11 19:30||   2007-12-11 19:30|| Front Page Top

#82 Choluns Bluetooth, are you saying that Nguyet Anh Duong is stupid?

She is after all an American. Americans are mongels with all shades of skin color and all slants of eyes and all sorts of cultural heritages. Forget the prefix and the hyphen, it is just a multi-culti fad.

Over all, they are smart mongrels.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 19:41||   2007-12-11 19:41|| Front Page Top

#83 ahhhh yes, Nguyet Anh Duong, an American of Vietnamese extract. Wonder why she isn't home, designing weapons for the communist government there? Our American system isn't perfect, just better than the rest IMNSHO. That said, we should never rest in improving America. Which is why it's SO important to restrict our slang against what any sundry alien person finds offensive, throughout the world. Pretty soon we'll be communicating in grunts and clicks, until the tribe in "The Gods Must Be Crazy" decides we're mocking them, then the mimes will object, then....

Color me unimpressed with the "high ground" some here gained today
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 19:42||   2007-12-11 19:42|| Front Page Top

#84 Actually, Choluns Bluetooth dear, the lady you reference became an American citizen as soon as she was able, increasing the average American IQ and decreasing that of the rest of the world. But there are plenty of people who don't have a firm grasp of basic statistics.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-12-11 19:43||   2007-12-11 19:43|| Front Page Top

#85 This thread is disturbing. And not just because it glosses over suicide bombers at a nuke facility. OK, so 'paki' is verboten (no implied nazi sympathies or joo-hatred, thank you!) because Brit (oops) soccer (metric football) hooligans use it as an insult.. How about Westernized Oriental Gentlemen instead?
Posted by SteveS 2007-12-11 19:46||   2007-12-11 19:46|| Front Page Top

#86 metric football!!!

ROFL!

Sorry, couldn't help it. I know that he artcle is about something else and this thread has been derailed, it is not the first and last time this happened, but the issue has some merit.

All levity aside, it's simple. We keep our nomenclature, and our British friend would read RB outside work, as he should, lest he be fired for simply not doing his job.

Now back to the issue of Islamist homicide boomer and a bus full of children as a target...
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 19:56||   2007-12-11 19:56|| Front Page Top

#87 "Westernized Oriental Gentlemen"? Nah. 3dc still wins. "Touchistan"... LOL!!
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-12-11 19:58||   2007-12-11 19:58|| Front Page Top

#88 OT: A point of note with regard to Comment #48. That is not the your original reply to me. You have added to since I replied to it. I assume that you must be a moderator.

Is it common for you to change your posts after the fact? If so, that is very bad form.
Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 20:05||   2007-12-11 20:05|| Front Page Top

#89 To be offensive by accident is a sign of ignorance.

To be offensive on purpose is a skill.

I thought this site was more about skill than ignorance.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-12-11 20:14||   2007-12-11 20:14|| Front Page Top

#90 Are all Americans this stupid?

It sure seems that way at times!
Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 20:14||   2007-12-11 20:14|| Front Page Top

#91 How is it that Choluns Bluetooth thinks he answered his own question about "all" Americans being stupid by linking to a Wikipedia article about some brilliant patriotic American??? He certainly managed to reveal his own intellectual limitations. Talk about stepping on your own gonads. I'm not sure from what land of supposed geniuses he hails, but he's not exactly doing them proud.

It sure seems that way at times!

Oh, so there's another here from the land of smug, condescending narcissists so superior to America. I'm sure it must be a wonderful place. With all their brain-power and their amazing powers of self-congratulation, they must be a far more successful country than America.
Posted by ryuge 2007-12-11 20:35||   2007-12-11 20:35|| Front Page Top

#92 This is nuts. 92 comments - a record? Will 100 break the Burg?

Popakopi
Posted by KBK 2007-12-11 20:39||   2007-12-11 20:39|| Front Page Top

#93 I think we need to tell the Pakistani government that if they lose control of their nuclear weapons, they will be destroyed by OUR nuclear weapons, wherever they are. If we have to turn all of Pakistan into a single, glowing crater, so what? I think that will stiffen a few people's spines just a bit...
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2007-12-11 20:42|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2007-12-11 20:42|| Front Page Top

#94 Is it common for you to change your posts after the fact? If so, that is very bad form.

Let's just say she has the propensity... but she's learning. ;-)

To be offensive by accident is a sign of ignorance. To be offensive on purpose is a skill.

I agree. ;-)

I thought this site was more about skill than ignorance.

It is. ;-)
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 20:45||   2007-12-11 20:45|| Front Page Top

#95 Oh, so there's another here from the land of smug, condescending narcissists so superior to America. I'm sure it must be a wonderful place. With all their brain-power and their amazing powers of self-congratulation, they must be a far more successful country than America.

Excuse me! But I AM an American, born and raised! And having spent 40 years watching this country slowly slide towards Socialism I'm appalled at the rearing of PC garbage here (of all places) because some supposed Brit gets his knickers in a twist over "Paki". And yes, from my vantage point it does sometimes appear that an astonishing number of Americans are stupid.

Because they sure do behave that way. Got anything else to say?
Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 20:51||   2007-12-11 20:51|| Front Page Top

#96 Got anything else to say?

Yeah, do you want your goat back? ;-)
Posted by ryuge 2007-12-11 20:55||   2007-12-11 20:55|| Front Page Top

#97 *ahem* - WWB, unless I'm mistaken, he wuzza referring to Mr. Choluns Bluetooth...

but I could be wrong (again)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 20:57||   2007-12-11 20:57|| Front Page Top

#98 WWB, from that vantage point, I agree. However, still a far cry from our more civilized superior better ones. Not that is something to be proud of.

Remaining Yours Unabattedly UN-PC
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 20:59||   2007-12-11 20:59|| Front Page Top

#99 When I first started reading Brit papers online, the term "Asian youths" kept popping up in articles describing arson, theft, and sundry mayhem. And then, it suddenly dawned on me that they were referring to Pakis.
Posted by mrp 2007-12-11 21:03||   2007-12-11 21:03|| Front Page Top

#100 Frank, it's Tl. Choluns Bluetooth, not Mr. Choluns Bluetooth.

[hint: a creature of small nature leaving droppings everywhere (not a mouse)]
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 21:05||   2007-12-11 21:05|| Front Page Top

#101 mrp, I also thought they bespeak of, myhaps, Koreans at first.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 21:07||   2007-12-11 21:07|| Front Page Top

#102 P-word to you, C-Bluetooth! And may the Yellow Hoard cross the Yalu River in your direction! :)
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-12-11 21:10||   2007-12-11 21:10|| Front Page Top

#103 WuzzaWuzzaBilly is an olde. Same no sound only furry.
Posted by Wazadannowafrank">Wazadannowafrank  2007-12-11 21:12||   2007-12-11 21:12|| Front Page Top

#104 A re-wrap, in the same cheep leaf tobacco that passes for trollery around here these dayz.
Posted by Wazadannowafrank">Wazadannowafrank  2007-12-11 21:15||   2007-12-11 21:15|| Front Page Top

#105 Its crying for a PC-Correct auto-translator....
in the tradition of slack.pl, val-speak, texan, swedish chef and even the racist jive script.

Just a mapping of words....



Posted by 3dc 2007-12-11 21:25||   2007-12-11 21:25|| Front Page Top

#106 Yeah, do you want your goat back? ;-)

Yeah, when you're done with it. Be sure and clean it up. ;-)

WWB, from that vantage point, I agree. However, still a far cry from our more civilized superior better ones. Not that is something to be proud of.

No question about it, having been to numerous third world crap holes, and a good bit of Europe, America is still the best place to be. That's what pisses me off so much about all the Leftist foamers and droolers in this country trying so hard to turn this place into something they wouldn't like if they were successful. That pretty much sums up why I think a large percentage of Americans are stupid. Not all, but an alarming number of them.

WuzzaWuzzaBilly is an olde. Same no sound only furry.

Projection, it suits you.

*ahem* - WWB, unless I'm mistaken, he wuzza referring to Mr. Choluns Bluetooth...

but I could be wrong (again)

*cough* Frank, it was me he quoted.
Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 21:33||   2007-12-11 21:33|| Front Page Top

#107 great... so I'm wrong...again...so much for my self-esteem, but wait! I have another drink waiting in the O-Club! I'm fine
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-11 22:03||   2007-12-11 22:03|| Front Page Top

#108 golly gee and wilikers Ima hopin it's still permissible to call plain Treason---> *demoCra'ps* still.. and call terrorists *hajjis* like the Marines and Soldiers do, even tho technically *hajjis* means Spiritual travelers etc...

Ima partial for the edgey woids and partial for every bit of colorful swearin and insultin lanuage we use to expose the full blown denial and fake outrage Muslimes *DO* over every terrorist deed!

I recognize I rub folks the wrong way sometimes but hey, call me on it plz. I even like folks who don't like me! LOL!

Ima truly partial to and like lotp.. alot, respectin greatly her accomplishments and such, even tho she's made it very plain she ain't partial to any my Humors.

for instance:

#7: ugh, Red Dawg. yuck.
Posted by: lotp|| 2007-12-08 17:18 Top||

/:)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 22:20||   2007-12-11 22:20|| Front Page Top

#109 Oh, I like your humours jest fine, red dawg. But any redblooded American male who contemplates needing "instruments" for his sexual pleasure, well ...

I just figured it was a bad day for you, that's all. ;-)
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 22:26||   2007-12-11 22:26|| Front Page Top

#110 hava big Large Huge Texas Size Iced Texas Tea on me Frank!!

:)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 22:27||   2007-12-11 22:27|| Front Page Top

#111 (on account of I think you're a gentleman at heart)
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 22:29||   2007-12-11 22:29|| Front Page Top

#112 hmmm, that comment was for red dawg, but Frank's a gentleman at heart too as is plain to see.

lots of such here, rough language notwithstanding.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 22:30||   2007-12-11 22:30|| Front Page Top

#113 lotp, what's wrong with nice fuzzy fur lined handcuffs?

its a good thing! ROLF!!

/ oh no! :)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 22:30||   2007-12-11 22:30|| Front Page Top

#114 you've got to tie 'em up to get 'em to ....

nevermind, I won't ask. ;-)

but ask a buddy how to .... or not ...
Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 22:33||   2007-12-11 22:33|| Front Page Top

#115 Yes I agree Frank is a fine refined Gentleman!

He's always conducted himself like a gallant country Squire!

Have another Iced Texas Tea Frank! LOL! on me!
/~:)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 22:36||   2007-12-11 22:36|| Front Page Top

#116 no, It's entirely consensual lotp,

good evening Ima going out!

:)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-11 22:39||   2007-12-11 22:39|| Front Page Top

#117 HOTAIR > AL QAEDA TARGETS PAKISTAN'S NUCLEAR BASES [the Long War]; + FREEREPUBLIC > IRAN WANTS 50,000 CENTRIFUGES OVER FIVE YEARS.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-12-11 23:18||   2007-12-11 23:18|| Front Page Top

#118 Well kids, it's been a lot of fun. We'll have to do this again next year.
Posted by ryuge 2007-12-11 23:51||   2007-12-11 23:51|| Front Page Top

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