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2003-08-06 Iraq
Returning Marines critical of Iraq plan
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Posted by Dar 2003-08-06 11:36:53 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Pro-democracy in the U.S. Military? But despotic dictators are OK for the Iraqis
Posted by Frank G  2003-8-6 12:21:55 PM||   2003-8-6 12:21:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 If you didn't get the read from the article, this paper has it's left turn signal on. I remember when I was a E-3 (same as LCpl): the world was very simple and I know NOTHING about the big picture. Come to think of it I don't remember many staff meeting where I was asked to give my input about how an operations was going (or not going). Cpl. McGee has a good point, but I doubt the military has 'thousands and thousands of MPs' they can deploy to Iraq. But I don't think the good Cpl thougt (or knows much) much about force structure when he made his statement.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2003-8-6 1:31:01 PM||   2003-8-6 1:31:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 You have to remember reporters are not responsible for the headlines of their articles. Editors are responsible for the headlines.
Posted by Cal Ulmann  2003-8-6 1:58:07 PM|| [http://ulmann.blogspot.com]  2003-8-6 1:58:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 If this journalist had an idea just how much complaining yer basic Marine does even under the best of circumstances, he would have realized that this isn't news. Marines love to complain.
Posted by BH 2003-8-6 2:29:19 PM||   2003-8-6 2:29:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think most of the MP's and SP's are already bizzy as hell scraping LCpls off the pavement - in Sammy Dago and Oceanside and a few hundred other places where troopers congregate and get shit-faced - and trucking them back to barracks and such. If you don't puke on 'em or try to argue with 'em, most won't hit you with those fucking ebonite sticks (which you will definitely feel - come morning) - they'll just rifle your pockets for some spare scratch and babysit your dumb ass home.
Posted by Â·com 2003-8-6 2:43:55 PM||   2003-8-6 2:43:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Cal--That's true--thanks for the reminder. Admittedly, the reporter is including both good and bad views here, and God knows what the editor may have done to the original text. This may be untouched or totally gutted and reworded for all I know. But, yes, the editors were the ones that wrote the "Quagmire!"-like headline.
Posted by Dar  2003-8-6 2:48:57 PM|| [http://users.stargate.net/~dsteckel/]  2003-8-6 2:48:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Oh my heavens! Grunts who complain! Why, never in the history of military conflict has that ever happened before! Run for the hills! it must be the end-times!

Posted by Frank Martin  2003-8-6 6:24:07 PM||   2003-8-6 6:24:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 hey! Frank Martin! where ya been?
Posted by Frank G  2003-8-6 8:04:13 PM||   2003-8-6 8:04:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 So, WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS! unless they disagree with FAUX FOX News which has distorted declaimed that the entire Iraqi war is a resounding success! If they disagree they are crybaby grunts
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-8-6 11:16:49 PM||   2003-8-6 11:16:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I dont care if they disagree with policy(smoke em if you got em, I say!), I just dont think its news that "front line doggies" complain. I also dont think it means anything. I only think its news if troops DONT complain, that would be something I've never seen or heard of. What a freak of nature that would be!

Of course, I dont have an agenda to carry around like someone here appears to have. It must be a bitch to walk around all day with that chip on your shoulder there, bubba.

(FG - Ive been everywhere there aint dialup and broadband is just a far off dream, but its good to be back in the land of T1 and air conditioning and the neighborhood titty bar.)
Posted by Frank Martin  2003-8-6 11:55:53 PM||   2003-8-6 11:55:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I dont care if they disagree with policy(smoke em if you got em, I say!), I just dont think its news that "front line doggies" complain. I also dont think it means anything. I only think its news if troops DONT complain, that would be something I've never seen or heard of. What a freak of nature that would be!

Of course, I dont have an agenda to carry around like someone here appears to have. It must be a bitch to walk around all day with that chip on your shoulder there, bubba.

(FG - Ive been everywhere there aint dialup and broadband is just a far off dream, but its good to be back in the land of T1 and air conditioning and the neighborhood titty bar.)
Posted by Frank Martin  2003-8-6 11:56:22 PM||   2003-8-6 11:56:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I dont care if they disagree with policy(smoke em if you got em, I say!), I just dont think its news that "front line doggies" complain. I also dont think it means anything. I only think its news if troops DONT complain, that would be something I've never seen or heard of. What a freak of nature that would be!

Of course, I dont have an agenda to carry around like someone here appears to have. It must be a bitch to walk around all day with that chip on your shoulder there, bubba.

(FG - Ive been everywhere there aint anything but dialup and broadband is just a far off dream, but its good to be back in the land of T1 speeds, air conditioning and the neighborhood titty bar.)
Posted by Frank Martin  2003-8-6 11:57:41 PM|| [www.rantburg.com]  2003-8-6 11:57:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Find a clue,NMM.
Posted by raptor  2003-8-7 9:09:17 AM||   2003-8-7 9:09:17 AM|| Front Page Top

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