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2003-09-04 Europe
Turkey’s EU Prospects Gloomy
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Posted by Steve 2003-09-04 10:22:51 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 *snicker*
European Convention Chairman Valery Giscard d’Estaing: "How can we trust a Turkey that would turn so badly on their good friend America, just so they could use Euros?"
Posted by Frank G  2003-9-4 10:31:21 AM||   2003-9-4 10:31:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "The latest enlargement wave has placed additional burdens on the Union’s economy..."

*snicker* Sorry, Murat, they don't need any more cheap labor, and they don't want any more competition, and they already have more than enough Muslim fanatics. Why don't you just go and ally yourself with the Americans and the Kurds.
Posted by Tom 2003-9-4 10:42:28 AM||   2003-9-4 10:42:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 But...but...but we f*cked the U.S. just like you asked us to....hey...you PROMISED....hello ?????....Jacques???....are you there???
Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-4 10:56:21 AM||   2003-9-4 10:56:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 not sure who should be more insulted; Turkey or Mexico.

"There are shitty little countries, and shitty big countries, aussi. Alors, mangeon le chocolat."
Posted by john  2003-9-4 11:02:45 AM||   2003-9-4 11:02:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, it's just as I suspected.

RE: Aris's comments on Ledeen from yesterday.

I have little doubt that the French would have blackmailed Turkey's Kemalists, as it fit their pre-war diplomatic pattern. (cf. Francophone African nations) It was also an easy threat to make, since we see that they have no intention of letting Turkey in anyway.

The nationalists undoubtably feared the Kurds, but they would have been better served being on board with a U.S. attack than outside looking in. This is one reason that I'm somewhat less angry than a lot of Rantburgers about Turkish perfidy. It doomed the realpolitik punks at State's efforts to betray the Kurds yet again.
Posted by Ernest Brown 2003-9-4 11:15:13 AM|| [saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]  2003-9-4 11:15:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 â€œIf we want full-scale integration within our European countries, we have to build a homogenous structure and preserve it ... I don’t see that possible with Turkey in the Union.”

Thanks, Valerie "Goebbels" D'Estaing. You will tell us when we're not "homogenous" enough for you, won't you? Sheesh, the sooner we're out of this the better.
Posted by Bulldog  2003-9-4 11:42:20 AM||   2003-9-4 11:42:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Amen, Bulldog! Come join a new alliance - The Coalition of Free Men. Much better than being subservient to the Frogs.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-9-4 12:01:55 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-9-4 12:01:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 This is not good news. If I were sitting in Turkey's shoes, I would take Northern Iraq immediately. I would look down the road and not like seeing Greece on the inside of the EU, with me looking out. Gaining control of oil reserves would be my recourse. I would hope that the U.S. would be too extended to stop the advance of my tanks.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-9-4 12:59:15 PM||   2003-9-4 12:59:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Super Hose, those tanks would be so much flaming metal if they tried that stunt. If our ground forces are overstretched, our air units AREN'T.
Posted by Valentine 2003-9-4 1:07:53 PM||   2003-9-4 1:07:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I understand that there are a lot of politicians in Ankara hobbling around with holes in both their feet.
Posted by Hiryu 2003-9-4 1:23:48 PM||   2003-9-4 1:23:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 But don't worry Murat. France will be a Muslim country in another 20 years and will then welcome Turkey into the EU.
Posted by Denny 2003-9-4 1:31:21 PM|| [http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com]  2003-9-4 1:31:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Well, now Turkey know how it feels to be screwed by the pooch.

Who says we don't have anything in common.

Rule 1. - Never trust the frogs.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-4 2:58:15 PM||   2003-9-4 2:58:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Valentine,

I understand that invasion would not be a sucessful strategy for Turkey. I am saying that I am not laughing about France flipping Turkey the bird. I have known several Turks personally. I would not expect the Turks to act rationally when painted into a corner.

I was on a ship that was actually located in the Suez Canal headed CONUS bound when Sadaam decided he needed all of Kuaitt instead of just a couple of islands. The US had only four combatant ships assigned to the Persian Gulf at the day. Our goal was to reduce that number to two ships in the near term.

People from other countries are know for acting in ways that Americans cannot fathom.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-9-4 3:17:05 PM||   2003-9-4 3:17:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 France to Turkey: I'll hold the football right here, while you try to kick it - again.
Posted by A Jackson 2003-9-4 9:14:44 PM||   2003-9-4 9:14:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Well once again France is damned if they do and damned if they don't! If they were for Turkey joining the EU the Rantbourgeois would be screeching about the Islamization of the EU--and the Turkish Trojan Horse! Since they are against it--now they're "unjuste" gimme a break! Turkey is/will never be a European country! Wonder what the Germans think since they have far more Turks in their Vaterland that they like about as much as the French like the Tunisians,Algerians,etc in their country?
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-9-4 11:28:11 PM||   2003-9-4 11:28:11 PM|| Front Page Top

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