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2003-11-20 Europe
French Muslims Reject Conditions on Mosque Subsidy
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Posted by Steve 2003-11-20 10:27:44 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ive been in synagogues where sermons were given in Yiddish, and one where it was given in Hebrew (of course in 98% - including Orthodox -its in English.) IIUC in the 19th C there were Reform Synagogues in the US where sermons were given in German - as also in some Lutheran churches. And of course there are gads of churches where i live today that advertise services in Spanish.

But none of the above asked for government funds of any kind. " issues such as construction subsidies, which the state offers to all recognized religions. " See thats the problem. You dont have a Wall of Seperation, you inevitably get the govt involved in the details of religion. Where it dont belong.
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-11-20 11:28:40 AM||   2003-11-20 11:28:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 France has separation of church and state issues that make the US stuff look like little league.

Steve (one of the Army of Steves™)---

"One mosque to rule them all, one mosque to find them,
One mosque to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."


That one is a keeper! ROTFLMAO!
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-11-20 11:40:49 AM||   2003-11-20 11:40:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 France was trying to set up a French flavored brand of Islam...

French Vanallah?
Posted by john  2003-11-20 11:53:30 AM||   2003-11-20 11:53:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Radical separationists in the U.S. are
usually worried about the religions controling
the state. The reality is that in the modern
world mingling church and state makes religion
subordinate to the state.
Posted by J.H. 2003-11-20 12:10:27 PM||   2003-11-20 12:10:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Why are these government idiots subsidizing the building of a mosque???
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-20 12:25:22 PM||   2003-11-20 12:25:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Grand Mosque of Strasburg

Why do I get the feeling that Chartes is in for its 11th redo?
Posted by Shipman 2003-11-20 1:20:09 PM||   2003-11-20 1:20:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Alaska Paul

For historical reasons the French laws about separation of church and state don't apply in Alsace where Strasbourg is.
Posted by JFM  2003-11-20 3:45:16 PM||   2003-11-20 3:45:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 JH is absolutely correct. And even if the LLL's fears about a theocratically Christian US is fulfilled, Hypocrites and accompished actors like Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton would become Church leaders just to get their power hungry hands on the levers of power, and to hell with the flock. (Little consolation that they'd have stiff competition from some of the present incumbents in certain quarters...)

Christians should have a say in how the government is run, and Christians, as citizens, should be able to run for and hold political office, become judges, and be permitted the same, not fewer or more, political privileges as anyone else. But let the political structure of one interfere with the other? No way!
Posted by Anonymous 2003-11-20 3:49:31 PM||   2003-11-20 3:49:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The association planning the Grand Mosque of Strasbourg rejected the demand and said it would rather forego the subsidy

DeVillepin: See, you silly Americans, WE know how to deal with zee Islamists. If you do like zee French you can also have zis kind of success.
Posted by g wiz 2003-11-20 7:26:15 PM||   2003-11-20 7:26:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 "One mosque to rule them all,...
Very appropriate Steve.
Posted by Raptor  2003-11-21 7:39:04 AM||   2003-11-21 7:39:04 AM|| Front Page Top

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