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2004-01-13 Down Under

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Posted by Super Hose 2004-01-13 1:18:02 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "In Jakarta, an opposition lawmaker in the Indonesian parliament insisted Tuesday that Indonesia was a clear target of any proposed Australian missile defense system."

Umm... doesn't this sound like an admission that Indonesia intends to lob missiles at Australia?

Posted by BH 2004-1-13 1:20:37 PM|| 2004-1-13 1:20:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 BH -- exactly.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-1-13 1:31:01 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-1-13 1:31:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmmm might wanna take a look at the Russian 'Sunburn'. I read somewhere that these cuties can bring down any aircraft carrier and the Bears have it now in Syria and china has them too.

Posted by Faisal 2004-1-13 2:41:45 PM|| 2004-1-13 2:41:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 your clearly not a very military minded child are you faisal,to even think your sunburn missles would survive the first strike is a joke in itself.You best go and read about military tactics of the superior allied forces before you drag your russian made flying trash cans into this,after all we all know how good russian weapons systems are don't we? just ask the republican guard.oh wait they were wiped out along with all thier commie weapons before they knew what was happening to them.Don't mess with superior minds faisel it only makes you look even more stupid,oh ps you on boarded your bannana boat yet to come and get me?

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-1-13 2:51:21 PM|| 2004-1-13 2:51:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hmmmm might wanna take a look at the Russian 'Sunburn'. I read somewhere that these cuties can bring down any aircraft carrier and the Bears have it now in Syria and china has them too.

Posted by Faisal 2004-1-13 2:53:21 PM|| 2004-1-13 2:53:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 That "sunburn" might be followed by a couple of "sunbursts" over the launcher's capital. In any case, there isn't a Third World nation around that could maintain them well enough to launch them, and the Chinese aren't stupid enough to sign their own death warrants.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-1-13 3:14:59 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-1-13 3:14:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I have never, ever been able to rationalize just how a defensive system escalates an arms race. Especially when said nation in question does not really possess offensive arms. While Oz could probably give the Indonesians an bloody nose in a naval conflict they do not have the means to prosecute an offensive champaign againt Jakarta. Not that they would anyways. But I think the Aussies are starting to have some of the same worries about their situation that I would in their shoes. A large mostly empty nation with populous neighbors to the north and west. I wouldn't be too suprised if the Kiwis start changing their minds in five to ten years too.

Posted by Cheddarhead 2004-1-13 4:08:35 PM|| 2004-1-13 4:08:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Clearly, Australia get it, while the EU may not. Check out the Newsday article: EU makes Economic Overture to N. Korea. Warning - take migraine medicine before reading. Maybe we should make a point of meeting with each company that is setting-up shop in NK to discuss the unlikelihood of qualification for US funded rebuilding contracts in NK. I think everybody involved would catch our drift.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-1-13 4:29:25 PM|| 2004-1-13 4:29:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 SM3 wouldn't be aimed against a SunBurn. But for info a SunBurn carries roughtly 1/10 the explosive power of a Mitsubishi piloted by an educated Japanese warrior. Which needless to say is somewhat quicker that A. A Russian CPU and B. Any ten Jihais. C. Anything named after an Arab.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-13 5:41:57 PM|| 2004-1-13 5:41:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Hi Faisal! Welcome back! When we going hunting? I need to train my Beagles not to laugh.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-13 5:43:07 PM|| 2004-1-13 5:43:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I read somewhere that these cuties can bring down any aircraft carrier
Hey, Faisal, you're out of step, man. We've already decommissioned our three flying aircraft carriers. All that are left are the normal surface version and the two new submarine carriers that have recently been commissioned. The Sunburn, like the oil-seeking missile the Russians designed to bring down our older, shakey cargo aircraft, has been rendered obsolete by American advances in technology. So solly, non-GI, you ruse.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-1-13 6:18:35 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-1-13 6:18:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 We've already decommissioned our three flying aircraft carriers

Yeah but we still have the 'Enterprise' commanded by Captain Picard. Not to mention all the other Star Fleet vessels.

Posted by Rafael 2004-1-13 6:33:28 PM|| 2004-1-13 6:33:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Rafael... We don't talk about that weapon system.

Posted by Mr..V. Braun 2004-1-13 7:29:19 PM|| 2004-1-13 7:29:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 LOL OP!

Posted by Frank G 2004-1-13 7:44:37 PM|| 2004-1-13 7:44:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Well if you're gonna be in an arms race, you might as well win it.

Posted by tu3031 2004-1-13 8:10:00 PM|| 2004-1-13 8:10:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 According to Global Security, the SS-N-22 "Sunburn" missile has a 370 kg warhead, that is not enough to "take down" a carrier. And that is also the reason you have integrated radar coverage (i.e. Aegis, Hawkeyes, all tied into the carrier, I think) that can coordinate an appropriate response to a SU-27 or TU-95 Bear that is getting within launch range of the carrier and sending the intending aircraft to the bottom of the ocean. I am not saying it can't cause some serious damage, but if it was to make launch with the CAP coverage you would be able to track where the aircraft came from and a send them a special "gift."

Posted by djhusmc 2004-1-13 8:45:21 PM|| 2004-1-13 8:45:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Many carpet kssing apologies Rantburgers. But today was a local in-service day and I couldn't find a sitter for Faisal. Normally he hang's out at the park but recently the local gendarmes had to remove him from.. well never mind about that. Anyway , thanks for being nice to Fritz.

Posted by Mom 2004-1-13 9:06:17 PM|| 2004-1-13 9:06:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Anyone hear from Murat lately? How can we have a meaningful weapons system discussion without Murat's input?

Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-1-13 9:19:58 PM|| 2004-1-13 9:19:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Anyone hear from Murat lately? How can we have a meaningful weapons system discussion without Murat's input?

Hunting season on Armenians?

Posted by Pappy 2004-1-13 10:56:34 PM|| 2004-1-13 10:56:34 PM|| Front Page Top

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