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2004-05-02 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Revealed: Farce of German plot to kidnap Eisenhower
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Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-02 6:13:35 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Q. Who's buried in Grants Tomb?
A. Brooklyn Dodgers!
Posted by Shipman 2004-05-02 7:51:09 AM||   2004-05-02 7:51:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 ...All of which goes to show you the kind of thinking that can be expected from lunatic madmen hiding from the rest of the world when they know their time is running out. Any resemblance to today is, of course, purely coincidental.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-05-02 10:15:02 AM||   2004-05-02 10:15:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Skorzeny wrote a book, My Commando Operations: The Memoirs of Hitler's Most Daring Commando. I have not read it. It supposedly mentions Operation Griffin which similarly used Germans dressed as GI's during the Battle of the Bulge.
Posted by Zpaz 2004-05-02 11:22:15 AM||   2004-05-02 11:22:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Is there any newspaper that we can trust?

Telegraph just went down in my ranking in a big way.
Anyone that know II WWar and more precisely the Battle of the Bulge knows that was only a gossip that spread in german troops and Otto Skorzeny seeying the value boost for morale let go, also if one of them was captured. The objectif was only making a mess of US reinforcements and dont let US explode the bridges over Meuse river and others. To more info research "Operation Griffen" / 150th Panzer Brigade /Otto Skorzeny


Btw that german guy was lucky most of their camrades were executed by fire squad on the spot because were wearing US uniforms and according Genebra convention can be convicted as spies.
Posted by Anonymous4602 2004-05-02 11:23:01 AM||   2004-05-02 11:23:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I seemed to recall that Operation Greif (Griffin)was a part of the German offensive known as the Von Rundstedt's Ardennes Offensive or Battle of the Bulge. A Google search turned up a detailed account of the SS 1st Panzer Divisions Activities in this offensive as well as the mission of Skorzeny's Operation Greif http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/7-8/7-8_11.htm (Scroll down to page 270.) This document treated the Eisenhower assassination phase of Greif plan as a rumor.
I'm still surprised by Fritz Christ's account because the main trust of the operation was around Malmedy in support of the Ardennes offensive. However, it is plausable that couple of tanks and several jeeps and men were split from main body to Fontainebleu. But why?
Posted by GK 2004-05-02 11:36:19 AM||   2004-05-02 11:36:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 But how!
Check Fontainebleu in a map. It's near Paris!!
Only in dreams they could travel that distance without any logistical support and assuming they dont get discovered.
And where the spies? supposedelly to have any hint of success Eisenhower must be tracked.

The german soldier is adding points to the story but more probably was SS propaganda machine supporting the soldiers morale, killing the enemy commander is always a boost .

Posted by Anonymous4602 2004-05-02 12:12:52 PM||   2004-05-02 12:12:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 It sounds mad, but so what? The German position at the time was hopeless, yet still they fought on. If you try to argue rationally that such an effort was madness, you're applying logic to a situation where logic had long since failed to apply.
Posted by Bulldog  2004-05-02 6:48:38 PM||   2004-05-02 6:48:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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